Trance like state? More like prevailing desperation to get and hang on to the best that you can be whether it is mentally/physically good for you or not. Nasty bit of delusion. The guys on the cover of Men's Health are no more realistic than what is on Vogue. Liz's earlier painting was based on Greek/Roman ideals of womanly beauty which was pre-surgery, lipo, air-brushing, extreme fitness freak-outs, right? If I were to guess at what we should look like without all this delusional crap, that lady in her painting would be close to base-natural. She looks chubby - but not exactly flabby....more BMI neutral.
Just my personal opinion, but most of the research that I have read/experienced with beauty (and all the nudes I've drawn) have all pointed to the physically healthy and symmetrical as the epitome of beautiful. It's interesting to be in a room with supremely athletic people and have a non-athletic beauty walk in. She or he will seem somehow diminished with the obviously healthy choices to investigate. Judging beauty in the flesh is so different because of the additional variables that go into play. A two dimensional portrait we judge on limited senses of symmetry and the current cultural ideal sans pheremones in smell, contact, and moving body language, voice tone, message, etc. That lady in Liz's painting appeared too fat for most of us today, especially those that are happy-complacent with the current ideal of emaciation. So, symmetry and cosmetic surgery is effective, but does not trump health and happiness ( as Orn mentioned that "glow"). Find the golden mean, whether it is plastic or not, and you usually find what most everyone will qualify as beautiful in every culture. I personally believe that smell and overall body symmetry is possibly more powerful. Maybe our inner caveman keeps a weather eye open for all and any possible mates? I've met some less than standard-cute people that were uber-attractive, so what is the trump card after all??? On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:29 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > What is obvious to me, perhaps because of my gender, is that in the > current US culture, the omnipresence of beauty industry advertising > along with programs on corporate tv and radio have been fairly > successful in producing a trance like state within too many women. > > The 'avarousness' found at the heart of consumerism has been quite > successful in supplanting a clear view of reality within the female > brain with one of being born in the 'original sin' of having a > lack...lack of beauty, lack of the right shape, color, height, length > nails, texture of skin etc. > > My entire life, while I do know how my eye appreciates specific shapes > and colors, I find those with inner beauty to be in fact beautiful > when it comes to human beings. Anyone who has this pure radiance is > immediately apprehended as being beautiful. > > Those who do not know this innate and true beauty appear to be sad and > have a sad life. > > > On Nov 17, 8:39 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Google and image Tiziano Vicellio > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Liz Purkrabek <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not familiar with his works, but I will definitely do a Google > search > > > to > > > see what else he has to offer. > > > > > liz > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > ornamentalmind > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:36 PM > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other > > > pictures > > > > > Liz, I've long been a big fan of Sandro Botticelli!!! > > > > > On Nov 15, 11:32 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > See, ladies could be born beautiful back then. Now it takes so much > work > > > > and/or surgery... > > > > > > LIz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BC > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:30 PM > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > Subject: Re: I like this picture. I found it while looking for other > > > > pictures > > > > > > On Nov 15, 8:33 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > [The+Wave.jpg] > > > > > > That is a nice pic; but she could stand to lose about a 20-spot. > > > > -BC-- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
