Those critiques of the universities look good. I got through the first two.
Now as far as critiquing his speech that you posted originally, do not you think that it is a stretch to imply that Obama may be setting himself us for a dictatorship any more than other government leaders (past or present)? I agree with the advertising criticism but how else will a candidate win, realistically? Besides, Democrats and Republican are pretty much the same as far as big government...each attempts to gain more power from the people so what's new? The people just have to do some work to prevent that from happening. Here is a question: Many of my liberal friends flock around Noam and hang on every world that he says without ever criticizing or disagreeing with his views. Can you name five or more points on which you disagree with Noam? Or, are you just like one of those non- skeptical Noam followers who I frequently met in California? Jason On Nov 24, 7:05 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noam peppers many of his critiques with pointed comments about > universities and education in general. Here are a couple that came up > first from ‘god google’. > > Recent speech.http://www.bu.edu/phpbin/buniverse/videos/view/?id=224 > > General views including > Universities.http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/197305--.htm > > More general overviews.http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19740207.htm > > Resources:http://www.chomsky.info/http://www.synaptic.bc.ca/ejournal/chomsky.htmhttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Chomsky/Noam_Chomsky.html > > A few thousand videos of > him:http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Noam+chomsky&search_type=... > > On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > The only book that I read was part of "Hegemony or Survival: America's > > Quest for Global Dominance" and a few articles by him in school. > > > I am not that familiar with his work. Where was he ever cynical of > > Ivy League institutions--not the ideas of these Ivy League > > institutions but the institutions themselves like he is cynical of > > government and corporate institutions? > > > On Nov 24, 5:58 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > “I thought his point were good; however, Noam's an extreme liberal. > > > Noam is hyper cynical of all wealthy institutions unless it's an Ivy > > > League institution.” – Jason > > > > I accept that you think his point(s) were good. > > > > "Reality has a liberal bias." - Al Franken. > > > > And, I doubt if many who study his works find him to be ‘liberal’. He > > > even examines how liberal/conservative have reversed definitions a few > > > times over the last few centuries in different countries and cultures > > > in his writing. > > > > I don’t know for sure what you mean by ‘wealthy institutions’, so I > > > can only guess. Perhaps you mean governments? Churches? Corporations? > > > The Mafia?….difficult to tell. > > > > As to his views about Universities, he has always been critical of > > > them…always. > > > > As to cynicism, since this includes the meaning of distrust, I see no > > > reason to not hold that view about most institutions. In fact, that is > > > part of his definition of anarchy. I doubt if many ‘freethinkers’ here > > > would disagree with his definition. > > > See:http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/rbr/noamrbr2.html > > > > So, overall, I’m glad you liked and agreed with him. I find him to be > > > one of the few sane voices in a vast wasteland. This even though the > > > way he is absolutely banned from any of the corporate media, TV, > > > print, radio etc., speaks volumes about how ‘dangerous’ his clarity is > > > perceived as being by these institutions what with their vast and > > > vested interests. > > > > Their propaganda against him is legion. Almost everyone who has NOT > > > read his works nor listened to him for any length of time considers > > > him at the very least ‘controversial’ and on the whole, dangerous. > > > Apparently it pays to advertise, which he addressed in the interview > > > you just watched. > > > > On Nov 24, 3:38 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > I thought his point were good; however, Noam's an extreme liberal. > > > > Noam is hyper cynical of all wealthy institutions unless it's an Ivy > > > > League institution. > > > > > On Nov 24, 9:21 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I was a little surprised by some of Noam’s views on the election > > > > > process and results. Rather than start out with my views, you may find > > > > > his first presentation since the election of note. > > > > > >http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/24/noam_chomsky_what_next_the_ele...text > > > > > - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
