That is extreme.  He claims it worked for him but he may be the only
person in the world that it works for (if it really worked).  This was
a self-report without experimental control so it is hard to say if his
"self-treatment" worked or didn't work.  Who knows.  Perhaps he
decided to fix the barrel and start one morning using his loaded 9mm.
He did do a lot better than most people with the similar issues.


On Dec 21, 3:33 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's great if it worked for the guy.
>
> Liz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
>
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason
> (Memphis)
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> Subject: Unconventional Approach to Coping with Depression
>
> Here is a story of an unconventional approach to dealing with
> depression.  This is a adult diagnosed with bi-polar from California.
> I don't know the long-term consequences (that is, decades) but this
> person claimed that it worked for a least the few years that I knew
> him.
>
> This is his approach.
>
> PROBLEM:  He had a problem getting out of bed in the morning and had
> frequent "comfortably numb spells," which eventually led to a job loss
> and other issues that accompanied the job loss especially relationship
> (martial and divorce) challenges.  That is not atypical for mental
> health patients.  So the following "solution" is his unproven,
> extreme, unconventional approach that worked for him as far as getting
> himself back into his life.  He thought his problem was that he lacked
> energy each morning to get out bed and contemplated suicide on a
> number of occasions.  He allegedly would "drown" himself in thoughts
> such as "it is not worth it,"  "....it is too much effort...,' "nobody
> care. i am nobody", " or "this is too overwhelming"...."life will
> never get better what's the point..."  etc etc. or just cried.
>
> SOLUTION: He bought a 9mm semi-automatic pistol but didn't buy any
> bullets and damaged the barrel so it wouldn't work without a
> replacement.  Each morning he would reach under his bed, point the
> defective 9mm to his temple, think about killing himself and slowly
> apply pressure to the trigger.  When he heard the click from the empty
> chamber, he forced himself to imagine that he was dead and contemplate
> the worthless of his life and how his death did not matter to the
> people in the world around him--his insignificance.  He would engage
> in this "self-therapy" each more for about 30 minutes.  If he got
> depressed or was depressed, he would force himself to deliberately
> embrace and repeat these negative thoughts.  Then he would force
> himself to state the direct opposite of this negative statements for
> the next 30-min but still occasionally think about the negatives.   He
> then would get out of bed (when it worked), embrace these negative and
> positive thoughts and spend the rest to the day distracting himself
> with life.  He claims that he also frequently felt overwhelmed with
> negative feelings so in order to learn to embrace these out of control
> overwhelming feelings, he would hold his breath and just accept that
> he was going to die by suffocation and kept holding his breath and
> accepting his death until he passed out (and he always woke up).  He
> used this as an analogy for his strategy for his negative emotions and
> reported that it helped.  These techniques did not always work, but he
> claimed that it was the best self-treatment that he came across so far
> that worked for him.  And he still relied on some (albeit less)
> medications.
>
> That is was just the oddest story from a mental health patient.
> However, he seemed to work for him so who am I to criticize.  When
> Jeff was talking about unconventional mental health approaches, it
> reminded me of this patient.
>
> Jason
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