Civilized people are just more systematic about killing and train professional assassins to do their bidding. If I recall correctly, anthropologists who lived among the savages for years often did not witness many acts of murder or violence but the villagers did report murders over spouses, resources, etc. Many of the savages new someone who was murdered.
On Dec 24, 10:26 pm, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote: > It's funny that although apes may kill apes from other groups, humans > living in primitive societies do not automatically do so. Additionally > violence and cruelity is far less commong among "savages" then among > civilized men. > > On Dec 24, 4:17 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > This civilization experiment will be interesting. For a large part > > of our history, we warred with other primate troops, that is, > > strangers. I don't think that it was uncommon to do two things upon > > see a strangers: 1) kill him or 2) hid from him. Now stranger in the > > human primate don't feel the urge to kill other stranger and sometime > > even off to buy them a beer. I've witnessed it. I think that is it > > is amazing that we've become sp civilized as human primates so > > quickly. Only in parts of Africa (occasionally in other parts of the > > world) do some primate human troops exterminate members of other > > tribes--and that is often only in war time. Plus, many humans only > > want to kill other soldiers and actually don't like killing > > civilians. I remember Amercians attacking Germany and the mass > > extermination of German non-combat civil including children was > > celebrated with delightful, bloody exuberance. > > > On Dec 24, 4:16 pm, Morpheal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jason (Memphis) wrote: > > > > Here is an interesting article. It reminds me of the introduction of > > > > "history of western philosophy" by bertrand russell when he talks > > > > about the social fabric of law and order quickly collapsing and the > > > > ensuing chaos including horror tales from failed Greek city states. > > > > >http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081221_man_is_a_cruel_animal/ > > > > I think you have to recognize that three months of military basic > > > training cannot > > > and does not serve adequately to produce a killer out of a civilized > > > human > > > being. In war time 3 months is sometimes considered a luxury and six > > > weeks > > > is all that inductees actually get. > > > > The veneer of civilization is consistently and meticulously kept > > > thinner > > > than you think it is, simply so that that basic training will suffice > > > to make > > > a trained killer out of nearly anyone in a society, for the purposes > > > of war. > > > > That begins with the cradle and continues until the grave. > > > > You have to radically change all of the world community, of society in > > > the largest > > > sense of that, if you want to truly civilize human beings. On the > > > other hand > > > i am not really certain that is such a good idea. Those aliens who are > > > watching > > > us from outer space, and visiting now and again, are all warlike and > > > hostile. > > > They want to compete too, for the whole universe and are just itching > > > to > > > have a nice war, testing out the killer instincts of humans ??? > > > Might be > > > Heinlein was essentially right, and what then ? > > > > Cheers. > > > > Robert Morpheal- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
