Looking for sources of waste oil tells you a lot about the restaurants in your area. When the waste oil is solid at room temperature, common sense tells you to look elsewhere for fueling - and eating.
McDonald's loses on both counts. -Dave Walton On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Luther <benz-n-h...@gulseth.net> wrote: > Frybrid is in this for profit. Please show me independent and repeatable > research that shows where VO (WVO or SVO) will not cause long term damage to > an engine. In 5 years of being around WVO/biodiesel, no one has shown me > this research. VO must be heated over 350F to make the viscosity similar to > diesel. > > A quote from the Frybrid website: > " > The simplest way to explain this is with a simple analogy: Imagine placing a > pan on the stove, pouring a small amount of vegetable oil in the pan, and > turning the heat to high. The pan will begin to heat up and as it does it > will heat the oil, around 300F the oil will start to smoke, then turn black, > stick to the pan, and destroy it. Now put out the fire, open all the doors > and windows and allow the air to clear.* > " > * > BUZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT, WRONG! Fries are cooked in oil at temps around 350F! > " > On a typical day at McDonald's, oil temperature in the fryer averages about > 340 degrees F. So when a cook grabs strips of icy potatoes out of the > freezer and tosses them into hot oil, water in the potatoes immediately > begins to evaporate. Bubbles and steam emerge, creating an enormous cycle of > heat transfer between the oil and the potato. The process, Farkas says, may > be the most important factor in producing the texture of the final fried > product. > " > from http://ucdavismagazine.ucdavis.edu/issues/su01/feature_2.html > > or > " > Cooking time in 360 degree F Oil > " > from http://www.mvproduce.com/ffries.html > > And for the smoke points of different oils: > " > > 1. Wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point> lists the > smoke points of some popular oils as: > * Canola oil (Refined): 468 degrees Fahrenheit (242 degrees > Celsius) > * Corn oil (Refined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232 degrees > Celsius) > * Grapeseed oil: 420 degrees Fahrenheit (216 degrees Celsius) > * Lard: 370 degrees Fahrenheit (182 degrees Celsius) > * Peanut oil (Refined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232 degrees > Celsius) > * Safflower oil (Refined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232 degrees > Celsius) > * Sunflower oil (Semirefined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232 > degrees Celsius) > * Vegetable shortening: 360 degrees Fahrenheit (182 degrees > Celsius) > o These smoke points are not set in stone, as much > depends on the oil brand and refinement process > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_oil>. A general > rule is that lighter, more refined oils have higher > smoke points <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_oil>. > > " > from http://www.mahalo.com/How_to_Deep_Fry_Anything > > Given that Frybrid blatantly lies about the smoke point of VO, what else in > their "bibliography of research papers" is stretching the truth or a blatant > lie? Oh yes, the wonders of the internet, where you can say anything you > want and find P.T. Barnum suckers all day long..... > > Luther, still not sold on vegetable oil as a diesel fuel substitute > > > Michael E. Esh wrote: >> >> Here is the site of the system I am currently using to burn waste >> vegetable >> oil. (WVO) I simple filter the oil using a small centrifuge. I do not >> process it into bio diesel. What I am doing is very safe. This site >> explains the process very clearly. >> http://www.frybrid.com/svo.htm >> >> Thanks, >> >> mike >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Luther >> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:01 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong >> >> >> Please provide the link to the study you read. >> >> Luther >> >> Tyler wrote: >> >>> >>> These sort of engine problems are essentially unheard of in MB diesels >>> that haven't run WVO. >>> >>> I still stand by the claim that WVO is good, but only if the oil is >>> heated really hot, and filtered really well (and it almost never is). >>> I did read a well designed scientific study once which showed no >>> measurable long term wear increase using well heated WVO compared to >>> regular diesel, but cold WVO caused serious engine damage in a short >>> time period. I suppose people will want a link... I'll see if I can >>> find it. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Tyler >>> >>> On May 8, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Michael LaFleur wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Why is it that every benz that has an engine problem that was run on >>>> WVO, WVO is blamedas the reason for the failure, but every other benz >>>> that has an engine problem, diesel is not the blame? >>>> >>>> Mike > > -- > Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark > '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast > '82 300CD (183 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
