I will have to put in my 2 cents though it is not worth much.  I get to assist 
the local medical with care of the USCG servicemen and women.  I can honestly 
say that they seem to get some pretty bright recruits.  I have yet to think one 
of them was retarded.  I have seen some who I can say were of average 
intelligence and maybe a little lower but, certainly not retarded.  My overall 
impression of them is that they are pretty clean cut good kids and a cut above 
of the general public.  I may be wrong but it seems that the other branches of 
the services may not get as good recruits as does the USCG (ie army).  My 
vote-good servicemen and women, not welfare.  
No offense to anyone intended.  




-----Original Message-----
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 10, 2010 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.


Well said! but it is not just the USCG. It is all branches. 
 
>Gary: 
> 
>Don't Immanentize the eschaton! 
> 
>In the not-quite-perfect world in which I reside, Our military is an 
>important protection against the dangers of the real world. Our volunteer 
>military will not accept those who do not have normal or better 
>intelligence. No doubt our country's leaders do not always wield the power 
>of our military in an intelligent and productive manner; but we are a lot 
>better off with them than we would be without them. 
> 
>One of my sons just completed USCG basic training. Even after winnowing the 
>applicants with testing, background checks and physical exams; nearly 10% of 
>the class couldn't cut it. I have worked closely with our local USCG unit 
>in Portland OR, and was seconded to that unit for 90 days a few years ago. 
>I had the privilege of working with some of the most dedicated and competent 
>individuals I have ever met. 
> 
>Browse the net and take a look at the work of some of the USCG SAR and 
>rescue swimmer units (to take two examples out of thousands) and tell me 
>again that you think these guardian-heroes are "retarded kids" in "the 
>welfare line". 
> 
>Greg 
> 
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] 
>On Behalf Of Gary Hurst 
>Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:36 PM 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare. 
> 
>our modern volunteer standing army is just another welfare line. it is jsut 
>another place to house those retarded kids we are systematically producing 
>in droves. 
> 
>on this list the american imperialism and war profiteering is what makes me 
>free. i disagree not only that this could possibly make us free but also 
>with the notion that this is any longer a particularly free country. as 
>long as the american people continue to capitulate to tyranny, we will 
>become less and less free. no number of innocent iraqis tortured or 
>murdered for fun and profit is going to change that. only active mass 
>resistance to the civil authorities can change that, not mass murder. 
> 
>now i will be encouraged to move to albania for dissent. only thing is that 
>this is my country too even if pitiful fools try to make it into a 
>totalitarian plutocracy and think they are doing god's work in the process. 
> 
>On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man <maontin....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> LarryT wrote: 
>> > Ditto - 
>> 
>> I'm not moderator here, but c'mon guys. 
>> You can't just read the party line. 
>> Can the party line ever be wrong or bad? 
>> If so, shouldn't we hear about it or reason further? 
>> I have no real opinion about the issue, but I think that there could 
>> be some rationale that could be elucidating to discuss, if it were not 
>> so inflammatory. While we may not like to hear the dialog, these 
>> types of thoughts are not expressed from a mind with a vacuum inside, 
>> but from a mind with a reason - I mean, it is known that there are 
>> plenty of veterans here, hence, that type of rhetoric does not come 
>> without forethought, really. If that type of rhetoric does come 
>> without forethought, then we agree, there is a mind with a vacuum 
>> inside. Perhaps we could listen prior to our flame throwers? We all 
>> have our reasons, don't we? Let's shoot the redcoats, not the army of 
>> the republic. 
>> mao 
>> 
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