Friends had a Ford Escape, hated it due to a rattle in rear gate that dealer could not fix. Bought it new, listened to the rattle for a couple years and finally dumped it. Definitely test for rattles!
-Max -----Original Message----- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S400 Hybrid Tim, Are you saying you own a Ford Escape? I ask because that is one vehicle I was seriously considering, albeit a used one. I'm not sure if that's where I will end up due to budgetary constraints, but I had narrowed it down to a Ford Escape, Honda CR-V and Hyundai Santa Fe. I would like to know what your opinions are of the Escape in general if you don't mind.... Thanks, Dan --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Tim C <bb...@crone.us> wrote: > From: Tim C <bb...@crone.us> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] S400 Hybrid > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 9:49 AM > On Jul 30, 2010 11:05 PM, "Jaime > Kopchinski" <jaime...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > People buy them to be politically correct. The same > reason Daimler makes > them. > > I bought mine because, at 2 years old and "high mileage" > (60k), there was no > price differential with an equivalent base v6 Escape (also > 2 years old > @60K), and there was a 30% mpg benefit. I might be the exception > among hybrid owners, but I certainly don't think any less of CO2 > emitters or drivers of classic cars. If you recall, the Escape Hybrid > commercials were some guy saying he didn't have to show off that he > had a hybrid; for me it was pure economics: the most advanced vehicle > that was in our price range, had the carrying capacity we needed, best > mileage of the lot, acceptable to wife, .... plus it is a US-made > gasser so I don't mind destroying it - the FEH is never going to be a > 35-year-old classic, so I may as well get out of it what I can until > it crumbles around us. > > Hybrids do have power benefits at lower RPM, if like Ford you put in a > proper engine tuned for higher-RPM efficiency you can get some > technical benefit. They also weigh a lot more (one review said 320lbs > more for my > i4+hybrid versus the v6 gasser), so a diesel-electric > drivetrain would be a > serious undertaking. I have also heard from EV aftermarket builders > that the current generation of CVTs don't have the strength to deal > with moving two tons of batteries, so I suspect that also plays a > role. In other news, can you sell new diesels in California? And > selling diesels might not count against the overall EPA numbers, not > sure how that works. > > Reading the earlier-linked article I can only think that it is a shame > that MB had such a unique US market for so long, but it sounds like > their US dealers are now into the "bigger/badder/we know what sells, > don't trouble us with the facts" mindset that killed Detroit when > Japan started to get serious. > > Feel free to reply on banned if you think it's getting political. > And/or violent / angry. :) > > -Tim > > In my driveway today: '05 FEH, '77 300D, '74 240D (soon-to-be > kidneyed), '72 F100 - well the 300D is street-parked. > > > > > Doesn't have much to do with anything else. I've spent > alot of time > > behind the wheel of one. Thats all I'll say. > > > > Otherwise, the newest S class is an outstanding car. > Especially the > > COMAND system. > > > > Jaime > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino > <gf...@dslnorthwest.net> > wrote: > >> So I flew up to Vancouver BC a few days ago to > visit my cousin, and was > >> surprised to find him waiting to pick me up in his > new MB. He had never > had > >> much good to say about the marque before. I > didn't get to drive it, but > it > >> was roomy and comfortable, and had impressive > technology. His garage has > a > >> tight entryway from a narrow back lane. But > the backup camera has lines > >> over the image to show the left and right safe > limits, as well as where > the > >> rear bumper must stop. Pretty nice stuff for > a lot more than I could > >> afford! > >> > >> Why someone who can afford this car would buy a > hybrid is beyond me. > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list > >> archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list > > archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
