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Angie's List

I have yet to be disappointed with the products and/or services I have received 
from an Angie's List supplier.

For $25/year, it's money well spent in my humble opinion.

Dan

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On Jun 23, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote:

> On 23/06/2011 1:22 PM, Tim C wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately I've yet to find a good Indie (or dealer for that
>> matter) within 30 minutes' drive, everyone around here seems to employ
>> monkeys who just break things, charge me $500, and then annoy me until
>> I get fed up and redo the job myself.  (Every single thing beyond oil
>> has cost $500.  It is really strange.) I think all the good mechanics
>> have gone into management, or quit to start their own shops and -then-
>> gone into management.
> 
> 
> Or, they have been beaten down by management and owners. My younger son is a 
> licenced mechanic working in a shop owned by someone else.
> He just shakes his head at what he is told to do sometimes,  but they don't, 
> in most cases, want his opinion if he does not agree. He sometimes has to 
> bite his tongue and do what he has been instructed to do even when he knows 
> it is going to be a problem that comes back.
> Makes it difficult to take pride in one's work.
> 
>> Once a garage called me back to see how my visit was;
> 
> I had this too, from a body shop that repaired my Suburban years ago. They 
> were really into the whole customer appreciation thing. Too bad they had not 
> been into proper fixing of vehicles. When I picked up the truck the manager, 
> or whatever he was, took me out and showed me the truck and instructed me to 
> notice that it was clean in and out. The front bumper was crooked and there 
> was still a small crease in the leading edge of the hood that they had not 
> attended to. This was on an insurance claim where they were no doubt charging 
> to do a good job. I commented on these things and he essentially brushed me 
> off. I got a bit annoyed but told him that I could fix the bumper myself if 
> they were not able to figure out how. He told me Chevy's are like that. I 
> said, all you need to do is grind the bolt holes a bit elongated and all will 
> be well from a visual point of view. I don't think he understood what I meant.
> 
> A week or so later I got a call from the shop on a followup basis. When she 
> asked if I was happy, I told her that I had expressed my unhappiness when I 
> picked up the vehicle and asked why she thought I should now be happy since 
> they had not offered to correct the deficiencies. She was dumbstruck. 
> Needless to say, I have not been back there or told anyone else anything but 
> my bad opinon of them.
>> Anyway, I am becoming used to the idea that the local mechanics* are
>> idiots, frauds, and/or have no idea how a car without a computer might
>> work, and that if I want a job done I have to put the car out of
>> service and do it myself (usually twice the first time), versus paying
>> for someone to do it wrong and then having to redo it myself anyway.
>> It is hardly worth my time driving all around the region, filing BBB
>> complaints, etc., when I can just do it the fix properly - eventually
>> - and have done with it, in the comfort of my driveway and without
>> having to schedule SWMBO to transport the kids and/or rearrange work.
>> 
> I agree that the best way is to do it yourself if it is within your 
> abilities. Sometimes it is just not really possible to do things at home. A 
> few years back I had to have the clutch replaced in the F150 that my younger 
> son was driving. He was still in school so not yet working in the shops. It 
> was winter and the slave cylinder went out. We could not leave it like that 
> or we would ruin the transmission and it was not really a job to do without a 
> hoist etc. It cost an arm and a leg and was never quite the same afterwards 
> but they did a good competant job so far as I can say. They used and 
> aftermarket clutch kit and that was likely why it felt different afterwards.
> 
> 
> There are good people out there. It just is a bit hard to find them. I think 
> you need to give them a reason to treat you well too. I belong to 2 different 
> business clubs. If I get work done at the shops who are members of the club, 
> they appear to bend over to ensure I am happy. They don't want me to say 
> anything bad about them at the club. The whole idea is to generate referrals 
> and obviously they want people like me to send other customers to them. Even 
> if you are not in that situation, I suggest you hint strongly that you can 
> send work their way if you are happy with their service and then do your best 
> to actually get them some work if you are happy with them. Nothing like a bit 
> of incentive.
> 
> Randy
> 
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