You must be speaking of a three phase delta system. That's the only one you 
would have a "high" leg on.

As someone who has worked with 3 phase systems most of his life, I would find 
this to be pretty darned dangerous.

Dan 

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On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:54 AM, John Reames <jwrea...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm not sure that I'd do that with any machine tools.
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> On Sep 11, 2011, at 19:51, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Well actually, with a bit of experimenting, you can use a 3 phase mixer on 
>> single phase pretty easily.  You find the "wild" leg, then put it on a 
>> momentary on pushbutton switch, hooked to one leg of the 240V. single phase 
>> (120V).  Then you hook the other two legs through the normal (on off) switch 
>> to the other two legs of the three phase. Done.
>> 
>> TO start, you turn the switch on and press the momentary switch until the 
>> beast gets up to speed, then release the momentary switch.  Its pretty cool 
>> once you get used to it.  I set up a M802 (80 Qt. hobart that way for a 
>> bakery one time.
>> 
>> Works for any 3 phase motor you manually start.  Helps a lot if whoever 
>> wired the building has the legs in the right position in all the junction 
>> boxes.  The "wild" leg should be in the middle. Unfortunately many 
>> "licensed" electricians don't know/don't do it this way.
>> 
>> 
>>> Speaking of 3 phase, has anyone considered (ab)using a VFD as a solid state 
>>> phase converter?
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>>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 17:56, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> I have both, and I have had problems with neither.  The K45 I have with 
>>>> the twister is a hobart made mixer.  The K5 is a early whirlypoo model.
>>>> 
>>>> Neither are really big enough for serious breadmaking.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a 20 qt hobart that does pretty well for small batches of bread.  
>>>> (Of course that is another order of magnitude of price.)
>>>> 
>>>> I'd really like a 140 qt hobart if I had space and 3 phase power (and a 
>>>> use for that much dough).  It will easily mix as little as 5 lb of bread 
>>>> dough.  It will also make over 100 lb of dough.
>>>> 
>>>> Actually an M802 is kind of a happy medium.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I have one where the bowl has a screw/twist mount on the bottom. That 
>>>>> tended to pull out when mixing dough, so I beefed up the threads on the 
>>>>> bowl by brazing on some additional metal.  That fixed it, but if I were 
>>>>> to  get another I'd get the one where the bowl hangs on pins on either 
>>>>> side, that looks a lot stronger to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Allan
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