Well that's great that you're open minded. I'm not when it comes to these things. A serious manufacturer makes it's own engines. Mercedes has gone down a declining path of no return. It's really too bad.
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Jaime Kopchinski <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, I'm ok with it, because I understand what the deal means. Jaime On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Dimitri Seretakis <[email protected]>wrote: Ok. But still by a Mercedes factory. Nissan engines in a Mercedes is unacceptable. Don't tell me you're OK with it? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Jaime Kopchinski <[email protected]> wrote: Then you're not going to like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_Benz Yep, Mercedes made in china!!! The reality is, this is how modern car companies stay competitive. If Daimler didn't do things like this, we'd see them on a decline. Instead, China is replacing the US for the largest market for Mercedes. They even have special models not available anywhere else, like a long wheel base E class. Thats good business, and good car building. Don't like it? Too bad... time to wake up and realize what the global economy means to today's automotive industry. It doesn't mean they're making inferior products, it means they're smart enough to build good products in a profitable way that people will buy. And the reality is that today's Mercedes really are excellent cars, both in design and production quality. But Wroger said it best... are you really in the market for a $40-150k car? Put yourself in the shoes of someone who has $60k to spend on a car (lots of folks do), and go test driving. Do they all look like toyotas or whatever? Well, maybe... they all look like modern cars, thats for sure. Thats because they're modern cars. Do they all have the technology, safety, and feel of a Toyota? Certainly not. A Mercedes is still a Mercedes, but the values of the brand are not the same as they were in the 70s when the W123 was designed. If they were, they'd have gone out of business a long time ago. Jaime On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis <[email protected] wrote: I'm not thrilled about it but at least it is being built by a Mercedes Benz factory, not a Nissan factory. And BTW all the vehicles currently coming out of the Alabama plant have their drivetrains built in Germany and not in the US by a Japcrap plant. That makes a huge difference. I was never thrilled about the Alabama plant to begin with-look at the terrible track record of the first gen M class. That being said, I don't have any real problem with American cars but I really dislike the Asian ones. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Allan Streib <[email protected]> wrote: So how do you feel about the entire C class vehicle being made in Alabama? No Germans are building the cars, and no Japanese will be be building the engines. Just good-ol Tennessee and Alabama boys. Dimitri Seretakis <[email protected]> writes: Yes. It REALLY bothers me. I don't care if Mercedes designs it. There is a very good chance that there will be many shared parts between the engines made for Nissan and those made for mercedes. Bottom line is that it's a Nissan made engine and it's going into a Mercedes - utterly disgusting. Carl and Gottlieb must be turning in their graves. I will seriously consider boycotting modern Mercedes cars from now on. I'll stick to my classics and for newer cars I'll buy Beemers, Audi's or anything else, japcrap excluded of course. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
