Specifics:  The year was 1977. The TWA instructor was speaking to members of
my TPS class: mostly USAF officers but also a Naval aviator, a Marine, a
couple of Canadians, an Italian, and an Israeli (all military).  The comment
was made after one of my class members asked about the cockpit mockups,
which were identical to a real cockpit but non functional.  The TWA
instructor said the TWA pilots took their qualification tests in the
mockups, which were clearly placarded with numerous warnings and things like
limit airspeeds.  Since we took our STANDEVAL tests at a desk some of us
students thought it was cheating to have access to that information posted
all over the mockup cockpit when the crews were being tested on many of
those same facts.  Apparently this was a union thing based on rationale that
the only time the crews needed to know that stuff was when they were in the
cockpit so that's how they should be tested.  For us TPS students, flying
was the focus of our lives at that point.  Apparently less so for some
commercial air crews according to that instructor.

Sorry you asked?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:29:13 -0400 "Scott Ritchey" <ritche...@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

> 
> In a prior life as a student at the USAF Test Pilot School, we had a
> two-week field trip that included the TWA simulation center in Kansas
> City. I'll never forget what one of the TWA instructors told us.  I'm
> not sure of his exact words but the gist was:  You need to understand
> that these guys aren't really professional aviators like us. 

I hesitate to request an explanation, but your use of pronouns leaves me
confused about whom and to whom the TWA instructor was talking.


Craig

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