In that case he probably should install the pump the way he knows how to do it. Sounds like he knows how to do it right so the problem is likely elsewhere.
Mike On Jul 26, 2013 8:59 AM, "Mike Esh" <michael...@mac.com> wrote: > > > The saga continues. > I have the new /used pump installed at 180 degrees from normal and we are > still having an issue of very low power. The mechanic had a very difficult > time getting the pump installed at this position. He said it kept moving > off several teeth as he placed in position. He ended up setting up the > pump normally and setting the engine at 180 degrees off. He then tried to > drip time off the #1 cylinder and the fuel did not show up. We tried drip > timing off # 5 and that appeared to work but we are still having the same > low power and smoke. It starts and idles very well, just no power. He had > set the valve clearance previously and will be testing compression today. > I will keep you informed as to our progress or lack thereof. > This is taking so long because he is working in his spare time to help me > keep my cost down. If we cannot figure this out do you think I should try > a new/rebuilt injector pump? > To the skeptics who ask me to question his experience: he has changed many > Mercedes pumps but has never had any trouble timing them. So he is indeed, > inexperienced at troubleshooting them. All help and suggestions are being > passed along. Thanks for all the help thus far, > > > Mike > > > > > > > > Michael E. Esh > me...@horizonenv.com > michael...@mac.com > http://www.yugster.com/invite/**138123<http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123> > (C) 231.286.2344 > > > On Jul 09, 2013, at 12:38 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:59:34 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Without the tool, I had to invent a way to do the same thing (get the >>>> pump in time) so I read a lot and thought about what has to be >>>> accomplished, then developed ways to do it without the expensive MB >>>> tools. >>>> You can do the same. Take off the valve cover, turn the engine over >>>> slowly. watch the first camshaft lobe depress the first valve (#1 >>>> exhaust) then keep turning until the #1 intake valve goes down. Then >>>> turn the engine over until you can see the degree marks on the crank >>>> dampener. stop at 45º BTDC. Then clean and remove the #1 injector >>>> line, clean the fuel out of the tapered part of the DV union on the >>>> pump where the injector line fastens to the pump. turn the engine over >>>> very slowly until you see the fuel just start to move up in the DV >>>> union. Stop! Read the degrees on the crank dampener where the pointer >>>> is. That is roughly the start of delivery. >>>> That is all you need to do. Check where the beginning of fuel delivery >>>> is. >>>> >>> Good suggestion, Loren. >>> Of course, you are assuming that it's been installed close to correct >>> timing. If the pump is 180 degrees out, he may not see the fuel welling >>> up in the delivery valve at the correct place of the crank rotation. >>> Also, like we discussed earlier this year when I was mystified by my >>> diesel with the bad delivery valve seals continuing to leak fuel, he may >>> have fuel welling up before the start of delivery and should look for a >>> stoppage of the welling up when the piston blocks the opening to the fuel >>> reservoir. >>> >> >> Yes, if there is no fuel delivery at the expected >> place, you keep turning the engine over until you >> get delivery. While we might expect the >> beginning of delivery to be 360º out, it may >> well be anywhere. the kleb SDL was way out of >> time, but actually ran pretty well. Well enough >> that Kaleb never figured out it was way off. >> >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >> > ______________________________**_________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
