We use one like this:

http://www.amazon.com/T-fal-E9389784-Professional-Nonstick-Dishwasher/dp/B00
4VJMT78/ref=sr_1_20?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1384638470&sr=1-20&keywords=t-
fal

to make tomato sauce dishes and seafood (mariscos) in lemon/olive oil sauce
that is to die for.  Heats evenly, easy clean-up and no off flavors to the
food.

The other pans in this series are also very useful.

Seafood recipe on request to anyone interested.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Hurst
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--WatchCookware Snobs Opine

i really always thought of t-fal as being stuff that poor white trash meth
heads would use in between stints in county.  live and learn!


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure who you're referring to, but I clearly stated that I have 
> Guardian Ware, which is plain aluminum as well as Magnelite, which is 
> hard anodized.
>
> I don't really cook much with the Guardian Ware, rather, I plate and 
> present on it as much of what I have is platters or serving ware. My 
> Magnelite is all hard anodized stuff, but I avoid cooking anything 
> that's acidic in it, as it attacks the surface.
>
> For high temperature stuff, like frying, I use T-Fal skillets or 
> frying pans, as the hard anodized aluminum discolors badly over time 
> and can be a real b*tch to clean from high temperature cooking.
>
> Probably the one exception to that is a hard anodized wok that I have.  
> I love cooking with it on the side burner of our grille, as it's about 
> the hottest heat source I have.  Otherwise, high temp stuff like 
> fajitas get done in cast iron.
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum 
> > your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive 
> > anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about
> >
> > i can't imagine how ingesting aluminum is a good idea overall myself 
> > and have long ago thrown away mom's 50s/60s aluminum.  the sick 
> > thing is that she abandoned descoware to go for the raw aluminum, 
> > but it's unlikely descoware will mean much to you (although it 
> > should)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
> ><gf...@dslnorthwest.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I greatly prefer nonreactive or cast iron cookware.  Aluminum 
> >> certainly conducts heat well, but the modern triple clad pots and 
> >> pans do also without exposing the aluminum to the food.  We also 
> >> use some of the modern T-fal stuff that is really durable and 
> >> really non-stick.  I recall that my
> mom's
> >> aluminum cookware was all severely pitted from even the mildly 
> >> corrosive effects of the food.  Why would you want to cook with that?
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
> >> Dan Penoff
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:07 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine
> >>
> >> I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware.  I have a bunch 
> >> of
> it
> >> in
> >> the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day.
> >>
> >> It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party" 
> >> and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come 
> >> and demo
> it.
> >> Also known as aluminum "waterless" cookware.
> >>
> >> Heavy, heavy duty stuff.  Sucks to have to wash it by hand, but I 
> >> love using it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >>
> >>> i also really like old corning glass stuff.  i don't buy or keep 
> >>> stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be 
> >>> covered with corelle and pyrex
> >>>
> >>> i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to 
> >>> anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area.  haven't 
> >>> been in over 20 years though.  i'd be surprised if there was still 
> >>> a lot going on there today
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Gary Hurst 
> >>> <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> i found some jap cutlery of the sixties.  really nice stuff.  i 
> >>>> threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now.
> >>>>
> >>>> in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but 
> >>>> that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex 
> >>>> wife
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay <redgh...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Understandable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler.   His parents
> passed
> >>>>> away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool 
> >>>>> mid century decor items that were socked away.  My cousin 
> >>>>> figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there 
> >>>>> would be almost no market for it until long after she dies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can appreciate the items.  Nice mid century crystal, china, 
> >>>>> silver, and plate.  Modern stuff, not the baroque repro, but the 
> >>>>> stuff of Mad Men and Architectural Digest in the 50's through 
> >>>>> the
> early
> >> 1970's.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, "Randy Bennell" <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Like a lot of other collectible stuff.
> >>>>>>> Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while 
> >>>>>>> those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest 
> >>>>>>> and dumps the parents' collection.
> >>>>>>> Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection 
> >>>>>> while you
> >>>>> can!
> >>>>>>
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