A coupla years ago a kid drove a Toada into a big oak tree up the road. The paper had some pics up for an hour or two, and it looked survivable -- air bags went off, the car was not that badly smashed. But I was told by my buddy the fire commissioner (trucks responded) that he drove straight into it, no seatbelt, high speed, to kill himself. Was sad, he was like 19. I think there are quite a few like that, you can sorta read between the lines of reports on crashes.

--R


On 12/18/13 6:11 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i think jumpers are popular.  also popular are overdosers and those who
hang themselves.  there might be more but that is what i come up with
offhand if no gun is available


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote:

Like how?

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Scott Ritchey <ritche...@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

Cars and guns each kill about 30K persons annually in the US.  But 20K of
the gun deaths are suicides, who would presumably kill themselves some
other
way if a gun wasn't available.

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Don
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And, how many people do cars kill vs. guns???





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