Hey Peter, I've always found that a good rule to follow regarding octane is the 
higher the engine compression the higher the octane. High octane fuel burns 
slower which allows for a more complete combustion. Most engines with a 10-1 or 
higher compression require higher octane fuel because it burns slower and 
because higher compression engines will knock severely if the fuel burns to fast
just my 2 cents 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:18:15 -0600
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?


My rule of thumb on the octane issue is thus:

If you have KE-Jetronic and no knock sensor, do NOT use anything but 
premium on the highway.  Midgrade is OK around town, but you really 
need the knock protection on the interstate as the engine cannot retard 
the ignition timing if it knocks.  Burnt valves is the usual result.

On later models with LH-Jetronic and knock sensors, remember that 
retarding the timing will reduce both power and milage -- you will have 
to run both, keep accurate records, and decide whether the lower price 
is actually a savings for you own particular circumstances.  I know 
that on several of my older cars, including my Mom's old Fairmont 
station wagon and the work van (with 300,000 miles on it!), the 
accumulation of crud on the piston crowns raised the compression ratio 
enough that regular rattled pretty badly.  Premium cured the spark 
knock, and the increase in power and milage more than paid the 
difference.

It is entirely possible to have the milage drop so badly from retarded 
timing that it's more expensive to run regular than premium.  You also 
risk damage to the catalytic convertor/oxygen sensor running late 
timing on acceleration all the time.

Peter


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