But what does it say if you land the plane 1100 feet too soon?
Don't they follow some radio beam down?
No one has said anything about a sudden drop in altitude just before they hit the power line so I doubt that happened.
Do you get wind shear situations in snow storms?

One would think with 2 pilots working on the situation,(and yes I know only one of them would be landing it but I assume the other person is paying attention and ready to take over - and would voice an opinion if they did not like what was happening) they should have done better despite the weather conditions.

RB

On 30/03/2015 1:36 PM, G Mann wrote:
I join Wilton in calling it pilot error. Regardless of the weather, or
equipment failure, it is pilots responsibility to land or choose to land an
an alternate. It is a requirement for all commercial flight planning to
have alternate airports as part of the flight plan.

Tower personnel also always give runway condition advisories for any
condition which might influence landing conditions. The days of "flying
blind" are long gone. If runway conditions were below minimums for
visibility for landing.. a divert to alternate is required.. if Ice is on
runway and minimum  traction requirements are not met.. divert to alternate
is required [ground crews now have machinery that physically test runway
conditions and report it to tower]

Several bad choices were made to continue the approach and landing, it
appears.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:14 AM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

Pilot error, either way.

Wilton

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  On 29/03/2015 4:59 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
Or the plane slid on an icy runway and either overran the end or exited
off the side (which is what the title implies). Bad things happen when the
landing gear sink into mud!

My guess is that the landing was fairly normal except perhaps for a
variable cross-wind, and they got in trouble on the ground, just like the
Delta did in Boston or JFK a couple weeks ago.  A slick runway without
warning can get scary fast, especially if it's only slick on one side.

Peter

  News this morning says they landed 1100 feet short of the runway, and
took out a power line and an antenna array on the way in, then slid on the
belly onto the runway after losing the landing gear and one of the engines.

Pilot error? Or computer error?
Lousy weather at the time. Snowing hard and after midnight so lousy
visibilty.

RB

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