There have been quite a few pipeline ruptures lately.  Problem is, once
they break no one is awake or on call to shut off the flow.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Last time I studied this (admittedly in the 70s), pipelines were much safer
> than rail or road.  This was in SoCal so I'm pretty sure geological
> instability was a consideration.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:02 PM
> > To: 'Curt Raymond' <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info),
> but my
> > impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
> killed
> > many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff I
> read
> > about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that the
> leaks
> > are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Curt Raymond
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> the
> > big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was sensitive
> > ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >       From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> >  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous.
> Look
> at
> > the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
> will be
> > moved somehow.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Kaleb C.
> > Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. Hmmmm
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last
> > > thing
> > he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> > company.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into
> > >> an
> > oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone
> > project after all.
> > >
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