".........surface area & heat transfer.  'Zackly.  Physics is physics.

Wilt

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Dan Penoff" <dpen...@verizon.net>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternative Refrigerants


If I recall, the one these guys are marketing as a replacement for the stock condenser is a four- pass, which would effectively double the surface area of the condenser.

I hope I wasn't giving the impression that the cross flow aspect was a big deal, as it really doesn't matter which way the refrigerant flows, it's more about surface area and heat transfer.

Dan

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On Jun 13, 2016, at 10:02 AM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I think that what you guys are talking about are parallel flow condensers vs. single channel serpentine and multi channel serpentine flow condensers. All that cross flow means is the freon moves in a perpendicular flow pattern to the air running through the condenser. All condensers that I am aware of in cars have the freon moving either from one side of the car to the other. The air always moves from front to back through the condenser or in a perpendicular pattern to the freon flow. The original condensers on our cars are multi channel cross flow condensers. The new ones that are up to 33% more efficient are the parallel cross flow condensers.

I think that cross flow in regards to advertising to sell condensers is just a buzz-word used by some companies to make it seem that they have something better then others since as I said they are all cross flow if they are used in a car. I don't even remember ever seeing any evaporators that are not cross flow. Come to think of it a parallel flow evaporator could probably help as much in our cars vs the multichannel ones that are in there now. I'll have to see if someone makes a replacement.

Manfred
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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:06:52 -0400
From: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
These are the guys who make the W123 conversion kits:
http://www.klimakit.com/about/ <http://www.klimakit.com/about/>
Doesn?t look like they?ve done much for a while. I may drop them a note about a crossflow condenser for the 350SDL.
Dan
On Jun 12, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The cross flow condensers on the later cars are much more efficient with 134. I have heard they have aftermarket ones available for the older cars. That would make a big difference I would think.

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