My boys do not have the desire or vision that they need to be serious about 
skills building.  Youngest is a swimmer, but will not do what it takes to 
advance beyond his natural ability.  None of the kids around now are willing to 
put forth the effort on school work either.  With their 24 hour day, they just 
do the minimum and play the rest of the day.  Busting butt is just not all that 
enticing to them.  Maybe one day it will be.

clay


> On Feb 19, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> By the time I was 23 I had completed a degree and an internship and was a 
> skilled worker. I agree its dammed hard to make a living as an unskilled 
> worker, the answer is to acquire skills. The problem with that appears to be 
> that it requires, you know, work.
> Kids across the street moan that they can't get jobs that pay enough for them 
> to move out of grammy and grampy's house so they just sit around and smoke 
> pot all day rather than starting out at the bottom and working up.
> When I was a college student just starting out I could take a construction 
> job in the spring and be a crew chief by fall. Bust your ass, do what needs 
> to be done, people notice and you get moved up...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD
> 
> No mooching going on here. I’m not paying his bills.  We have a policy of 
> “Home is always Home” for any family member.  I’ll provide a roof over your 
> head, but you’re going to pay for that privilege unless you’re disabled.
> 
> I would also point out that it’s damned difficult for anyone without a degree 
> and even in some cases with a degree, who is just starting out, to make a 
> decent living.  Yeah, I know, you can work two jobs, etc., etc., but the 
> problem is it’s near impossible to even make a subsistence living as an 
> unskilled worker.  I don’t know what the solution is, suffice to say I’m 
> damned glad I’m not just out of school and trying to start a career right now.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> At 18 my dad gave me his old '84 Ford Tempo that was only kept because it 
>> had no trade in value. That rolling heap lasted 1 year until he gave me my 
>> mother's '88 Jimmy S15 that had a bit more than zero trade in value but not 
>> much.
>> At 23 I had finished college and moved out on my own, I bought my Dakota 
>> that September.
>> I feel like a failure being unable to mooch off my folks any longer than 
>> that...
>> -Curt


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