Anybody who says "gun violence" is an expert only on 
finding ways to assault civil rights. 
That goes double for if they publish in propaganda outlets like
The Trace or Huffington Post. 
Mitch. 
> On May 11, 2017 at 8:40 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I read this recently and thought it was a good article about a person who I
> would consider an authority on the subject of gun violence. You can say
> what you want about the constitution and forefathers etc, but the view from
> the trenches is not so pretty:
> 
> http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/gun-violence/?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000135&te=Newser
> 
> I think the Lanza dude would not have been able to wipe so many kids out
> with a less capable gun; same with the DC shooters who were using a .223 -
> so many of those victims died on the spot due to cavitation injury from
> high velocity rounds causing massive internal bleeding.
> 
> In particular, high velocity rounds combined with large magazines are very
> deadly.
> 
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:40 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 11 May 2017 07:58:24 -0700
> > "as.thompson--- via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Curt,
> > > Not only limit access to a gun but tell you what kind of gun you’re
> > allowed to own and how much ammunition you can put in each one. As if any
> > of those restrictions on law-abiding citizens will limit what criminals do.
> > > It’s getting like Alice In Wonderland out there….
> > > Addison
> > >
> > > From: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicago moves up
> > > Date: May 10, 2017 at 4:28:23 PM PDT
> > >
> > >
> > > The anti-gun crowd wants to limit my ability to posses a gun since they
> > figure I'll give it to some gangbanger. Its easier to limit my access to a
> > gun than to actually deal with the problems of the country.
> > >
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > How are you being punished, Curt?
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Presumably, since there are no gun factories in Chicago.
> > > I just wonder why people in Chicago (and DC and NYC) feel the need to
> > shoot each other so much and why we shouldn't focus on that rather than
> > punishing all the rest of the country for the actions of the few.
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicago moves up
> > >
> > > The stolen guns originated from somewhere else - right?
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Andy sez:
> > > >
> > > >> ‎Agree, but they need to expand this >protection to surrounding
> > counties
> > > >> where all the guns can be easily >purchased. Cut off the supplies
> > where
> > > >> they are generated.
> > > >
> > > > Nice try, however, you sir, are incorrect. Most of the guns in Chicago
> > > > come into the possession of criminals through theft.
> > > >
> > > > ‎https://apnews.com/ 0ed63f11c9ba4cdf9da464f2d9604b
> > > > 6b/railroad-thefts-and-guns- deadly-mix-chicago
> > > >
> > > > http://chicago.cbslocal.com/ 2017/03/03/gang-thieves-use-
> > > > rail-yards-as-shopping-malls- steal-scores-of-guns/
> > > >
> > > > ‎http://chicago.cbslocal.com/ 2016/11/22/2-investigators-
> > > > gun-thefts-continue-at- chicago-railyards/
> > > >
> > > > Here's a little video to watch to help refute your absurd claim.
> > > >
> > > > ‎https://www. louderwithcrowder.com/hidden-
> > camera-buying-a-gun-without-a-
> > > > background-check/
> > > >
> > > > Please get your facts straight.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > >
> > > _______________________________________
> > After 65 years of trying unsuccessfully to control crime by banning guns,
> > it makes one wonder why governments are still trying to do it.
> >
> > About 65 years ago I sat at a truckstop counter listening to two truckers.
> > Their conversation went something like this:
> >
> > Trucker A:
> > "Florida is a b*tch in the summer with no produce moving north."
> > "If I could find a load that just paid for fuel, I could get back up north
> > where there are plenty of loads."
> >
> > Trucker B:
> > "You can make fifty dollars taking a footlocker full of guns to a certain
> > state up north that just made possession without a license a criminal
> > offense." "Lots of drivers doing that since there is very little risk."
> > I'll give you the number to call if you're interested."
> >
> > I got up, paid, and left with a new understanding of "alternate" markets.
> >
> >
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