Well I have a geology degree but that is equally irrelevant.

Let the market dictate and set the politics aside.  Why would for-profit
utilitiesclose down their coal plants if they could make money by keeping
them open?  Why are all new power plants wind and solar where the resource
is plentiful, and natural gas otherwise.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 3:31 PM Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 10:31:54 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Seems like people on the list have been chiming in about windmills and
> > the need for ongoing coal plants etc. from time to time, so I though it
> > might interest the group to hear from someone with skin in the game,
> > e.g. a utility. I typically listen to stuff like this in the car on my
> > phone.
>
> To date, the electricity from alternate sources has been much more
> expensive than from conventional sources -- if you eliminate the
> subsidies. One of the reasons for increased costs is that utility
> companies have to have a traditional source on line and spinning to
> make up for the dropouts of the alternate sources, thus wasting the
> traditional source fuel source.
>
> The driving factor is getting something for "free" and a mistaken
> belief that anthropogenic CO2 is the only knob controlling the global
> climate -- it, at best, runs a distant second to the most powerful
> climate-controlling gas, water vapor.
>
> For most of those who push anthropogenic CO2 and curbing fossil fuels it
> is a religion -- that's the only way one can explain their fervor and
> refusal to consider different viewpoints (including very scientifically
> based ones).
>
> The rest of those pushing curbing fossil fuels are doing so for the cut
> of the revenue they will receive from building alternate sources and from
> carbon cap/trading taxes. Fortunately for Washington state, it's voters
> recently soundly rejected their carbon cap/trading ballot question,
> precisely because of that.
>
> Utilities in California have to work in and with the liberal California
> world view -- they know which side their bread is buttered on. Given a
> level playing field, they might sing a different tune.
>
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. In case you missed it, I have a Ph.D. in physics, something very
>      relevant to this discussion.
>
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