I finished an outdoors table I made in Minwax spar varnish thinking that was the correct finish for something exposed to UV all day, every day, just like a boat. In three years it looks like one of the worst cases of clear coat peel you've ever seen. My brother-in-law is a merchant marine captain and long time sailor, so I asked him what went wrong. He said - nothing, you have to sand and re-coat the wood every year!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:18 PM Dimitri via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Jaime refinished the wood in his w108 250S that he recently sold on BAT. > The finish was pretty much spot on to what original would have looked like. > I believe he used a catalyzed urethane based clear coat in a satin finish- > or used some kind of gloss reducer additive? Might have greater durability > than a spar varnish but I’m far from experienced in such matters. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 1, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I wonder if the catalyzed finish like Bona floor stuff would work. > Water-based, thin, you mix in a second part, wipe it on, it self levels, > then in a coupla hours it is fairly hard. Not sure if it comes in a gloss > or if it would just run off some curvy wood pieces. Kinda pricey for a > gallon to just use like 3 ounces on some wood pieces. There is some stuff > used for bar tops that is glossy and catalyzed but again not sure how thick > or sticky it is. > > > > --FT > > > >> On 2/1/19 5:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > >> That sounds right to me-I have never analyzed it closely but the finish > is > >> thick-you can see where it comes off. > >> Dwight E. Giles Jr. > >> Wickford RI > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Drew (Heritage Woodworks) explained the the clear finish that Mercedes > >>> used on later car to me once. It’s some sort of catalyzed acrylic or > >>> lacquer, if I recall correctly. Wicked tough stuff, the process he > used to > >>> remove it was not only nasty but quite labor intensive. No doubt the > reason > >>> why they could get away with using paper thin veneer on those parts. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Feb 1, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dan, > >>>> I really can't argue with that or your experience. I liked the oils > for > >>> wide grain woods like oak which were not exposed to outdoor light. > >>>> Looks like the wood in my 123 has a heavy coating-maybe even some kind > >>> of acrylic? > >>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr. > >>>> Wickford RI > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > >>>> Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back > pocket, I > >>> can assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for > these > >>> sorts of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink > and > >>> swell with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the > UV > >>> blocking characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive > >>> amount of direct sunlight these parts receive. > >>>> Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it > >>> eventually breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular > (re) > >>> application to maintain the finish. > >>>> -D > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > >>>>> Try some watco danish oil? That makes a really nice finish. The > spray > >>> stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would > penetrate and > >>> last in the heat there. > >>>>> --FT > >>>>> Sent from iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > >>>>>> Finally got something done despite the cold… > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/1/31_Not...Finished.html < > >>> > http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/1/31_Not...Finished.html> > >>>>>> -D > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________ > >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ < > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com < > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > >>>>> _______________________________________ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ < > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com < > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ < > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com < > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > -- > > --FT > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. 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