Marshall said:
"Used briefly, it may do some other good (it increases
combustion temperature and is an excellent fuel system solvent) and
then normal operation on untreated fuel will usually disperse the minor
coking one application is likely to cause."
Hmm, if it increases combustion temperature, this might
be good to use for the occassional thorough Italian Tune-Up...no? And
it would clean at the same time.
Thoughts? If so, how much? 1 qt/tank?
Chris
Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Levi Smith wrote:
> This guy doesn't have any sort of injector heaters or anything?
>
> If so, that's great. Most anyone I've heard of in other countries are
> at least using some sort of heat at or near the injector pump.
>
> The Mercedes are about the best there are from what I've heard, but that
> cold oil on cold engines tends to build up from everything I've heard.
> I forget which list it was on, but someone had "official" test results
> from a while ago that pretty much showed that vegoil killed every engine
> they ran it in, just in varying lengths of time depending on the engine.
> However, they weren't heating it at all.
>
> I haven't heard of ATF coking you up though. I've heard that actually
> CLEANS things out, not vice-versa...
You need to do a little more research!
Mercedes has issued a TSB forbidding the use of ATF as a fuel additive.
They tested it extensively and forbade it's use because it causes
injector coking! Used briefly, it may do some other good (it increases
combustion temperature and is an excellent fuel system solvent) and then
normal operation on untreated fuel will usually disperse the minor
coking one application is likely to cause.
Marshall
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Dave,
AH! Finally I find someone with an Elsbett kit. I really like what I see on
their site as it seems much simpler than the US set ups...I'm talking of the
single tank version. Since it rarely gets very cold here (MO), one could get
by with 100% WVO most of the time and a kero mix the rest of the time. And
it's a reasonably priced system...and it's German :-)
Please tell me more about your Elsbett experience. Do you put the WVO in
your "regular" tank and have a small diesel tank? Where is the small diesel
tank located? What size is it?
THANKS!
Chris
dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I started running WVO using a single
tank Elsbett kit on my S350 at 150k
miles. At 180k I replaced the head gasket and a bent rod. Things were a
little dirty inside, but nothing major. No where near "coking up" the rings
or anything like that. I don't quite fit your profile because I only run
100% WVO during the summer (> 45F), I thin with kerosene during the winter,
and the oil is heated before it hits the injector pump. I switched to 100%
last week. This morning the car started a little rough at 35F and took a few
minutes to smooth out. I should have plugged it in overnight. Overall, my
results have been good thus far, however I would not recommend this for
everyone.
-Dave Walton
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On 4/4/06, Levi Smith wrote:
>
> I didn't realize at first that this was a 91' However, I still wouldn't
> have guessed that the fuel was being heated. Though I doubt even if it
> is being heated that it will be to about 180F?
> If it's heated Somewhat you might get away with it on the Benz.
>
> I'm simply referring to posts I've seen on other forums from some guy
> who swore up and down that the old Benz (like 80-85 300D's) didn't need
> any heating. He was in Florida, so everything was pretty warm. Well,
> about 15K miles later he was pissed off cause he had major coking
> problems and it messed up the rings.
> Or at least that's more or less what I *think* I read. Feel free to try
> it yourself and prove me wrong, I'd LOVE to not have to worry about
> it! (:
>
> If you can point me to anyone who has more than say 20K miles and is
> running STRAIGHT 100% veggie with NO HEATING whatsoever, I'd LOVE to
> read it!
>
> Levi (:
>
>
> Jeff Zedic wrote:
> > BZZZT wrong....what work will you need to do in 15k??
> >
> > The car will runb fine on veggie oil like that. The OM603 has a fuel
> > heater built in.
> >
> > If you'd like to point us to actual FACTS that would be appreciated!
> >
> > Go ahead and throw it in! You'll like it!
> >
> >
> > Jeff Zedic
> > Toronto
> > 87 300TD
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Here at the Oceanside, CA Costco, soybean oil goes for $12.50 for 35lbs
(4.65 gallons). That's $2.69 per gallon. It runs just great in 300SDs =
and a
95 E300D. Very quiet, smooth and no pblms starting (so far).
Today, #2 was $2.76/gallon at the local Mohsen station, and $3.06 nearer =
the
I-5.
Jerry
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Hmmm... given the current high price of diesel fuel, I wonder what =
veggie=20
oil in bulk is selling for at Costco??
Will have to check it out next time I'm there -
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
