It’s especially satisfying (to me, at least) to get everything back to original so you know its right. Call me a purist, but there’s some logic behind that mindset when it comes to things like engines and other systems. You really can’t second guess the guys and gals who designed these things.
-D > On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the info, it looks like it could be a sorta fun and satisfying > effort. I have all those files on the DVDs I bought and loaded on my winders > laptop, and the 123 CDs, I'll have to dig into them and get the pics and such > and do some googling. I guess they are all online too. I'll order some > hoses and fittings and those valves. > > --FT > > On 4/22/20 11:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> This is why I keep a length of bulk hose on hand at all times. The hard >> vacuum lines are often either missing or so brittle that the minute you >> fiddle with them they shatter into a million pieces. >> >> You can get a good idea of what attaches to what just looking at the line >> drawing I linked to, but there should e a vacuum line drawing in the engine >> compartment, I think. If not, you can find them online, too. >> >> These are temperature switches that direct or cut off vacuum to various >> parts of the injection system based on coolant temperature. The switches >> just screw in/out of the block, and if you relive pressure on the cooling >> system can be changed with minimal leakage, if any. These are critical to >> the proper operation of the system, as they affect how it responds based on >> engine temperature. That and vacuum leaks are a BAD THING for any of these >> cars, too. It would be interesting to see if any of the vacuum ports on the >> manifold and injection system are capped off. If not, it’s guaranteed to run >> poorly, if at all. >> >> This is real elementary stuff, so don’t be amazed by it. Again, I can’t >> emphasize enough how important it is to get everything back to original in >> this regard before doing any troubleshooting. For that matter, if you’re >> living right getting everything hooked up properly could very well make it >> work just fine. But until you do, you’re treading water. There’s no way to >> know if the fuel system is working properly until it’s restored back to it’s >> proper working configuration. >> >> I’ve had more than one car that’s been just lousy until I sorted out all the >> hoses and fittings and made them right again. You know how crappy the >> diesels and shifting are if the vacuum isn’t right? Pretty much the same >> concept. >> >> -D >> >>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Wow, thanks. Those are the things on the block? To what would they then >>> attach? Vacuum? Or to some other part of the FI? And what is that >>> threaded hole in the back for? Looks like some other kind of sensor. >>> >>> I need to get line and fittings I guess, a lot of what’s there could stand >>> to be replaced >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I just checked and it appears that the two thermovalves that are broken >>>> off at the fittings are still available and relatively cheap, about >>>> $22-$25/each. >>>> >>>> 000 140 71 60, Thermovalve, opening at 50 degrees >>>> 000 140 34 60, Thermovalve, opening at 17 degrees >>>> >>>> -D >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Looks like someone savaged the vacuum lines. A couple of the >>>>> vacuum/temperature switches are obviously toast, but can be replaced >>>>> easily. In #30 there’s some sort of a vacuum/electrical device I can’t >>>>> identify, but it’s clearly disconnected but may be functional. >>>>> >>>>> What I’ve found on a lot of cars like this one is that the vacuum system >>>>> gets boogered up and some dim bulb decides they can just yank everything >>>>> and make it work right. Which of course ends poorly. The best approach I >>>>> have found is to get some bulk (hard) vacuum line and some hose and >>>>> replace everything in the system. It’s cheap yet time consuming, but if >>>>> you do’t get this sorted out of the gate you’ll never be able to get >>>>> things working properly. >>>>> >>>>> Hard vacuum line is cheap as wine on ILW, I think I bought 10 meters of >>>>> the stuff a few years ago for $15, which is almost a lifetime supply for >>>>> most people. I also have a box of the rubber vacuum fittings of various >>>>> types along with a few meters of the bulk hose to make up connections. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t recall seeing a lot of black cars in the day, so that probably >>>>> makes it a bit rare. The interior looks pretty good, and the exterior has >>>>> the usual cruft that all these cars suffer from, unfortunately. Being >>>>> black they’re not that noticeable, however. >>>>> >>>>> If I was prioritizing things on this, I would get the belt installed and >>>>> then get a vacuum diagram and get all of the vacuum stuff sorted. At >>>>> least at that point you’ve got a foundation to work from, which you’ll >>>>> need if you have to mess with the FI at all. >>>>> >>>>> -D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> There are some things you can see in the pics I will need some help >>>>>> with, will deal with that soon. Forgot to mention it has the original >>>>>> radio in it and I think it works, I forgot to check it. Did not get a >>>>>> pic of that, I will add to the folder later today along with some others. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TPKngNrteqcuIk2snudTBdGGtzQW_TmI >>>>>> >>>>>> Per Jaime's comment yesterday, I checked under the intake manifold and >>>>>> found a vac line falling off, the connector is rotted, so that will be >>>>>> something to go through. Probably others too, I'll need to buy a bunch >>>>>> of that stuff I guess. Also you can see in pic 30 this vac thing that >>>>>> has nothing attached to it and I can't tell where it is supposed to be >>>>>> bolted down, will need to figure out whussup wif dat. Looks like I need >>>>>> to dig into the 123 workshop manual and get all the engine diagrams and >>>>>> such. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also in pic26 there are those fittings on the pass side of the block >>>>>> that have nothing attached to them, and you can sorta see where stuff >>>>>> was oozing from what I guess is the head gasket leaking in there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Newish AC compressor, alternator (with munched belt in there), PS pump >>>>>> it looks like. Exhaust muffler, pipes, resonator all new, looked like >>>>>> new boots on the rear axles outboard but the axles did not look newish. >>>>>> Tires pretty new. I don't know if the AC works or not, will have to put >>>>>> the gauges on it and see if has pressure or will hold a vac. >>>>>> >>>>>> For $1300 I guess I can't complain, it runs and looks decent from 20ft. >>>>>> I'll sort out a few issues and see what the DMV are up to these days, >>>>>> get some plates and drive it a bit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, and it has a solid roof! >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --FT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
