Big screwdriver across the starter to prove that it works? It'd be annoying to 
troubleshoot all around it only to find that the starter is bad...
-Curt

    On Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 3:31:43 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
 
 I have been fooling around with this ML500 that I don't have a title for 
as it has a lean.

Recall that when I first got it it was showing a Start Error and there 
were various codes for this and that, which I cleared but it would still 
show a Start Error but no new codes showed up so that did not indicate 
much of anything.  Thinking it might be the DAS ring I picked up another 
one off an ML at LKQ last Saturday and swapped that in to see what might 
happen.  It was a different part number but same unit it looked, plugged 
in fine.  No joy, still a Start Error.  So I put the old one back in and 
gave it a go, no Start Error now (YAY!!!) now but still no cranking 
either. Everything else lights up and whirs and clicks and makes the 
right noises except the starter.

I've scanned it several times and no codes at all, everything looks good 
in the various nannies so that is good.  So at least the Start Error is 
gone.  There is a red light on the dash that blinks once or twice that 
supposedly indicates the alarm has not disabled the car, and I could get 
it to blink and stay solid using the fancy computer to trigger it then 
go back to "normal" so that suggests it is not disabled.  I saw no other 
switches and events that would indicate that.

There were some suggestions I saw that indicated a coupla relays might 
not be working so I checked those, swapped in other ones, I could hear 
them clicking, power at various pins on the relay sockets were good and 
the nannies said they checked out.  Since I am seeing voltages at the 
relays I have to conclude the ignition switch is OK as it lights up the 
dash and the relays and such. I've also put good batteries in, voltages 
are good, but nothing is cranking.

Turns out there is a 100A ceramic fuse on the positive battery terminal 
that looks like the starter connects too, the fuse was good near as I 
could tell, looked clean and fairly new.  But maybe not, I was thinking 
to clamp the cable directly to the terminal to see if that worked but 
didn't yet.

So now I am thinking there must be a bad starter relay somewhere, if 
there is one, that I am not seeing.  Maybe on the starter? Only thing I 
have seen is the small relay in the fuse box under the hood, which 
appears to be working.  Or the starter solenoid itself or the starter 
has gone bad?  I have not been under the car yet to see if there is 
voltage going to the starter or to try to put power directly to it.  I 
don't even know where it is!  I guess I will have to look at that aspect 
and see what else I can determine.

Any other ideas or suggestions?

-- 
--FT


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