I like that idea.  Start your T/S at the starter end.  After verifying that
the starter motor will engage, try to power the solenoid.
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Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:42 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Big screwdriver across the starter to prove that it works? It'd be
> annoying to troubleshoot all around it only to find that the starter is
> bad...
> -Curt
>
>     On Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 3:31:43 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via
> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I have been fooling around with this ML500 that I don't have a title for
> as it has a lean.
>
> Recall that when I first got it it was showing a Start Error and there
> were various codes for this and that, which I cleared but it would still
> show a Start Error but no new codes showed up so that did not indicate
> much of anything.  Thinking it might be the DAS ring I picked up another
> one off an ML at LKQ last Saturday and swapped that in to see what might
> happen.  It was a different part number but same unit it looked, plugged
> in fine.  No joy, still a Start Error.  So I put the old one back in and
> gave it a go, no Start Error now (YAY!!!) now but still no cranking
> either. Everything else lights up and whirs and clicks and makes the
> right noises except the starter.
>
> I've scanned it several times and no codes at all, everything looks good
> in the various nannies so that is good.  So at least the Start Error is
> gone.  There is a red light on the dash that blinks once or twice that
> supposedly indicates the alarm has not disabled the car, and I could get
> it to blink and stay solid using the fancy computer to trigger it then
> go back to "normal" so that suggests it is not disabled.  I saw no other
> switches and events that would indicate that.
>
> There were some suggestions I saw that indicated a coupla relays might
> not be working so I checked those, swapped in other ones, I could hear
> them clicking, power at various pins on the relay sockets were good and
> the nannies said they checked out.  Since I am seeing voltages at the
> relays I have to conclude the ignition switch is OK as it lights up the
> dash and the relays and such. I've also put good batteries in, voltages
> are good, but nothing is cranking.
>
> Turns out there is a 100A ceramic fuse on the positive battery terminal
> that looks like the starter connects too, the fuse was good near as I
> could tell, looked clean and fairly new.  But maybe not, I was thinking
> to clamp the cable directly to the terminal to see if that worked but
> didn't yet.
>
> So now I am thinking there must be a bad starter relay somewhere, if
> there is one, that I am not seeing.  Maybe on the starter? Only thing I
> have seen is the small relay in the fuse box under the hood, which
> appears to be working.  Or the starter solenoid itself or the starter
> has gone bad?  I have not been under the car yet to see if there is
> voltage going to the starter or to try to put power directly to it.  I
> don't even know where it is!  I guess I will have to look at that aspect
> and see what else I can determine.
>
> Any other ideas or suggestions?
>
> --
> --FT
>
>
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