Yes exactly. As a kid i used to watch my uncle throw that flywheel. My
grandfather had,a,cool 39 model B that you started on gas  & when it got
warmed up you kicked the lever over & it  ran on kerosene. Immediate belch
of black smoke then chugged along. I used to sit on his lap &  beg him to
make black smoke.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:13 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> I knew little of the older JD diesel tractors until one day when I was in
> the generator business and we had a generator rental to deliver. When we
> did so there was no way to get it off the Landoll trailer we had delivered
> it on. It was a 350kW unit that weighed about 10,000 pounds. We sold it to
> a small dirt track oval raceway outside of Muncie, IN that was going to use
> it to power lighting for night races. This place was in the boonies and as
> a result did not have the required three phase utility power available for
> the lighting.
>
> So the guy goes running off and comes back a few minutes later with a guy
> driving this old tricycle style John Deere with a big flywheel on the side.
> He chains it up to the skid base of the generator, opens the throttle and
> drops the clutch. This thing barely grunted while it drug a 10,000 pound
> piece of equipment off the Landoll and across the grass to it’s resting
> place.
>
> When I got closer and had a look it was a horizontal two cylinder with s
> stroke that had to be measured in feet, or so it seemed. Had gasoline
> starting cups on it, too. It was a really cool tractor.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes the grey & red,Ford tractors,were 8N's. They had light front ends &
> would flip in hilly fields of NE PA. Hill farmers,used John Deere because
> tricycle front ends,were heavier- some even added,weights to front end
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 8:55 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > A lot of the farmers I worked with as a kid had the old Ford tractors -
> the ones that were red and gray (N series?) I can recall driving more than
> my share of those around, and they seemed quite bulletproof and strong. A
> few of the more prosperous farmers had the blue models. I don’t know if
> they were any better, but they seemed to be nicer in some respects from
> what I can recall.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:49 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Beware of leaking injectors or feed lines on JD's that have them inside
> > > the engine itself.  My Dad's 'new' JD was basically a lemon, and ended
> up
> > > filling the crankcase with diesel fuel before needing expensive engine
> > > work.  It was also somewhat puny compared to the older tractors he was
> > > used to.
> > >
> > > He would have been far better served buying an older, bigger JD with
> > > a more traditional engine construction.  The lemon was turbo'd.  Lots
> of
> > > horsepower (on paper), but in practice fairly underwhelming for a lot
> of
> > > uses.
> > >
> > > It's my brother's problem, now.
> > >
> > > Nothing we had pulled/grunted like the old Moline UTS.  Heavy, redline
> > > at 1200 RPM.  40-odd HP, but torque that would rip things in half.  And
> > > an appetite for gasoline to match!
> > >
> > > -- Jim
> > >
> > >
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