Subaru has an interesting boxer diesel engine. Never sold in in the USA because they did not want to make the needed investment to meet CARB emissions standards. And if they could not sell it in California, they didn't want to bother with the rest of the country. This is not entirely California's fault; if the US market was more interested in diesels, Subaru might have felt it worth doing. But with the overall US market for passenger diesel cars being small, and cutting California out of that, there was just not enough of a market left for them to be interested.
Allan Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: > As far as cars go, CA is a big market, and whatever happens there, for > whatever reasons, affects the rest of the country. While CA might mismanage > it’s own MV (or chainsaw or weedwhacker or lawn mower) regulations, a > resident there has the choice to vote or move. The rest of us lack that > option yet manufacturers practically have to adhere to the choices of CARB or > the legislature in our options. > > I think that’s why people slag on CA, aside from the apparent stupidity of > some political decisions, I.e., to ban fossil fuel cars when there are > rolling blackouts and brownouts of electrons that would need to power the > electric cars. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Sep 27, 2020, at 1:57 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Where does all this animosity toward CA come from? I mean I live here, and >> there is plenty of crazy stuff going on, but I don't obsess about what is >> going on in other states. >> >> For some reason people seem to enjoy slagging on California, even when they >> dont pay any taxes here. That seems weird to me. >> >> We are a federation of states. If 37 million people in a given state want >> to live a certain way or mismanage their finances or motor vehicle laws for >> whatever reason, it is their constitutional right to do so. Or at least I >> thought that was what this country was about. >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 12:17 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I really hope CA, WA, and OR secede. Then the remaining states can >>> declare war on the "West", occupy (probably without resistance) everything >>> but some coastal enclaves and shut off the water and power to those blue >>> anthills. We won't be so lucky. >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>> Max Dillon via Mercedes >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:23 AM >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> Cc: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by >>>> 2035. >>>> >>>> Insanity. Let the forests burn, releasing more carbon dioxide and other >>> very >>>> toxic pollution in a week than all those cars in a year or more, and >>> banish >>>> gasoline engines instead. Ignore that your state is burning down around >>> your >>>> ears, but find a boogey man that you can attack to signal your virtue. >>>> >>>> So will all the firefighting equipment be battery powered, hydrogen >>> powered, >>>> or use unicorn farts? Maybe all the trees will be burned down by then, >>> so no >>>> more firefighting equipment will be needed? >>>> Max Dillon >>>> Charleston SC >>>> >>>> Sep 24, 2020 7:50:52 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>: >>>> >>>>> California is banning sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035. >>>>> >>>>> Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has made urgent calls this year for sweeping >>>> actions to curb carbon emissions as massive wildfires have devastated the >>>> West Coast, signed an order Wednesday aimed at helping to phase out >>>> combustion vehicles in the nation’s most populous state. The measure >>> targets >>>> ending the sale of new gasoline- and diesel-powered passenger cars in >>>> California by 2035. The Democratic governor said transitioning to zero- >>>> emissions vehicles would significantly reduce the state’s greenhouse gas >>>> output, about half of which comes from transportation. Currently, less >>> than >>>> 10% of all new vehicle sales in the state are electric. A leading auto- >>>> manufacturing lobbying group voiced support for expanding electric >>> offerings >>>> but called for more consumer incentives and infrastructure investments to >>>> boost demand. >>>>> >>>>> --FT >>>>> Sent from iPhone >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Allan Streib Indiana University Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering Digital Science Center | Intelligent Systems Engineering | FutureSystems _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
