PO of my house put one of those in on the main garage door, so I got it by 
default when I bought the house.

The notifications are a little annoying, but the ability to open and close with 
the app can be convenient when I’m in a car that doesn’t have a remote.

Mine is a belt drive, and the quietest garage door and opener I’ve ever had.

-D

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> My landlord’s guy just installed a new garage door opener in the joint. It 
> has Wifi. I  valiantly fought the urge to download the app that allows me to 
> open and close the door and know the status of the door from anywhere on 
> earth. I lasted two days and then I did it mainly to mess with my grown 
> children. 
> Please don’t tell them. This has been fun. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my 
>> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access the 
>> more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I prefer 
>> analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who probably 
>> does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
>> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
>> of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
>>> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
>>> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
>>> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
>>> 
>>> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
>>> approaches to design and quality control.
>>> 
>>> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
>>> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
>>> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
>>> that can break.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after two
>>>> major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
>>>> replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
>>>> junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
>>>> 
>>>> OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
>>>>> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
>>>>> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
>>>>> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
>>>>> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
>>>>> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
>>>>> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
>>>>> than the LG, but only time will tell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Massmann
>>> 
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