I will say this I have worked remotely the last 15 years. At my previous job we had company meetings and people got to know each other there pretty well. Aside from that we got to know each other well on our weekly calls, just calling each other for help etc. We were not millennials though and probably know how to interact with people be it in person or remote. At my new job which I have been at a year, some folks I have been out on site with have developed into friendships somewhat. Most of these are older folks my age. We have a ton of millennials that work for us and no relationship has been built with them at all. One guy I did a couple of installs with is about my age and he said when he is paired up with somebody he will ask them 3 non work related questions. If by the 3rd question they have not asked him some sort of not work related question, he is done trying with them. We are talking about things such as favorite movie, hobbies, stuff like that. He says almost all of them will answer but never ask him anything in return to keep the conversation going.
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > I feel the same way. You said it better than I did in a reply that I > started and then trashed. > > Also it's one thing for established workers to continue their jobs > remotely, but it seems to me very difficult to bring on new hires and > get them integrated into the "team" if everything is remote and you > don't get to actually meet anybody or work with them during an > introductory or training period. I guess you can try to do that > virtually also but I don't think it would be optimal. > > If it does prove to be that virtual workers are acceptible for many > companies or jobs, the 6-figure-income techies in California can say > goodbye to their jobs. There are smart motivated people in eastern > Europe, Asia, and elsewhere who will do those jobs for a fraction of the > wages. Google, Amazon, etc. will not hesitate. The need for the workers > to be physically present was the only bottleneck. They were already > lobbying hard for increased work visa quotas so they could hire more > Indian programmers (who they also pay less). > > Allan > > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: > >> I've been thinking that the current situation of almost all virtual >> work (for those that can do so) is a losing proposition in the long >> term. I'm not sure when the impact will be felt, but eventually the >> work-place relationships will shrivel up into superficial and shallow >> relationships, and the trust and social cohesion needed to keep an >> organization vital and energized and innovating will slip. Companies >> / workplaces that maintain in-person environments will gain the >> advantage. Perhaps some companies will develop business models that >> allow them to remain competitive, but I fear that those models will be >> brutal for the 'workers' and heavily benefit the company and its >> leadership. Man is a social being, and there will be a price to pay >> for reducing workplace social contact. >> ------------- >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> >>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 1:48 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> If we still have the Internet and virtual processes used during >>> COVID, do we really need markets and exchanges in big cities? Why >>> can't all that be virtual from wherever? With online banking, >>> investing, etc. I think we are close to that now. There is, however, >>> a serious drawback in reduced social contact: >>> https://biggeekdad.com/2016/12/the-millennial-question/ >>> >>> The traditional retirement investment was to have kids who can take >>> care of you in old age. If we, as a nation, continue to have too few >>> children it won't matter how much gold or dollars the old geezers >>> have; there will be no care-givers to hire, at least not American >>> ones. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Allan Streib via Mercedes >>> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are >>> >>> I get the sentiment but we need both unless we revert to pure >>> subsistence living. Farmers absolutely need commodities markets in >>> Chicago and New York, for example. Anyone with any substantial assets >>> needs insurance. Anyone who wants income to retire on needs >>> investments. >>> >>> ... > > -- > Allan Streib > Indiana University > Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering > Digital Science Center | Intelligent Systems Engineering | FutureSystems > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
