The Par ler COE said (on TV last night) that they used AWS servers for 
development (dumb, IMO) and were unable to download all their codes, etc. 
before Amazon pulled the plug.  Bad on Amazon but Par lor should have had safe 
backups.  I have multiple local and cloud backups for even for my little church 
site.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:42 PM
To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?

Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), 
they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service 
provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of 
service, so they turned it off.

Same results, though.

They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their 
domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have 
all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re 
pretty much SOL.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but 
> the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was 
> mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. 
> Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know.
> 
> Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what 
> I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced 
> or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a 
> simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to 
> guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much 
> secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly 
> banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when 
> you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in 
> case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban 
> accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to 
> get it sorted out is near-impossible.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes:
> 
>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem 
>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and 
>> whatnot and data privacy and such.  I don't know Parler so that is 
>> not something I have used.
>> 
>> https://signal.org/en/
>> 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-bi
>> g-tech.html
>> 
>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your 
>> politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc.
>> 
> 
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