Exactly. This is what I want to avoid. Sure, I know the Carvana and CarMax
people are still getting their pound of flesh, I just don’t want to deal
with the BS. If I go the used route, and I probably will, that aspect of
the transaction is amplified because there’s typically less room for
haggling. That and you can’t really do the Internet buying thing with used
vehicles.
Private party is definitely better, but involves more effort on my part
and has potentially more risk.
-D
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
When we bought the CPO 14ML350 we agreed on a price and had everything
nailed down. I specifically said I was not paying any paperhandling fees,
OK. So after a little while the paperwork shows up, there's the doc fees
listed on the total price calculation. I pointed this out and the sales
guy was like weeeeeelllll you know that is kinda standard blahblah so I
said OK thanks for your time and we got up and walked out. Got in the truck
and got settled, was backing out and here comes the sales guy running out
and waving at me as I pull out of the parking spot. He's like hey I worked
it out we can do the deal! And I say no thanks, we're done here, can't
trust you, we can find another car somewhere. So he starts begging no no
no come on, it's OK, so I say OK give us a minute. So we sit there for a
few minutes, the guy is pacing at the door, we go back in and he is all
apologetic, it was an error blahblah. Yeah sure how about a $100 credit in
the swag store to make up for it and he is kinda shocked about that but
says yeah sure so we do the deal and go into the swag shop and pick out a
few things that probably cost them $20.
These people are just way too much.
--FT
On 2/14/21 7:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Here dealers will say the doc fees are required by the state. That is a
lie. They are not required to charge doc fees at all. The law says if they
charge doc fees they have to charge it to everyone. If somebody throws a
fit they can deduct the amount off the sale price but it will still have to
charge it in the fees.
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On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When we bought the RAM I nearly walked over the doc fees. 30 years ago
when there was a secretary typing it out I didn't like it but understood.
Today they enter the price and the computer spits out all the forms
automatically. IIRC it was $300 and I told the salesman that if the doc fee
continued to show up he could shove the paperwork where the sun doesn't
shine.
They said they'd take the doc fee off the price of the truck. I told
them it'd have to be $500 off the price of the truck, he didn't even
blink...
-Curt
On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 11:47:22 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
That’s the whole deal with Carvana and Carmax, no pressure and upfront
pricing. As far as add ons, not sure about Carvana but I bought a GL at
Carmax several years ago and they still charged doc fees just like any
dealer. They also offered aftermarket warranties for add on costs as well.
I think with carvana they have some sort of deal were if you don’t
like it you can return it within a certain amount of time for a full
refund. It’s baciallj supposed to be just like shopping for a TV or
something.
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On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
As I look at potential trucks, I see a lot of nice ones on Carvana.
One big advantage of them is the fact that there’s no “add ons” like a
dealer does, the slimy “dealer fee”, “paperwork/transaction fees”. etc.,
etc.
Kaleb - you’re familiar with these places - do you have any thoughts
about them? I realize they just cover the costs up front and as a result
often charge more than dealers, but it makes it a lot easier to shop when
you don’t have to do the mental math or go digging around for the list of
fees on a web site.
-D
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