Here dealers will say the doc fees are required by the state. That is a lie. 
They are not required to charge doc fees at all. The law says if they charge 
doc fees they have to charge it to everyone. If somebody throws a fit they can 
deduct the amount off the sale price but it will still have to charge it in the 
fees.  

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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> When we bought the RAM I nearly walked over the doc fees. 30 years ago when 
> there was a secretary typing it out I didn't like it but understood. Today 
> they enter the price and the computer spits out all the forms automatically. 
> IIRC it was $300 and I told the salesman that if the doc fee continued to 
> show up he could shove the paperwork where the sun doesn't shine.
> 
> They said they'd take the doc fee off the price of the truck. I told them 
> it'd have to be $500 off the price of the truck, he didn't even blink...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 11:47:22 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> That’s the whole deal with Carvana and Carmax, no pressure and upfront 
> pricing. As far as add ons, not sure about Carvana but I bought a GL at 
> Carmax several years ago and they still charged doc fees just like any 
> dealer. They also offered aftermarket warranties for add on costs as well. 
> 
> I think with carvana they have some sort of deal were if you don’t like it 
> you can return it within a certain amount of time for a full refund. It’s 
> baciallj supposed to be just like shopping for a TV or something. 
> 
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> > On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > As I look at potential trucks, I see a lot of nice ones on Carvana. One 
> > big advantage of them is the fact that there’s no “add ons” like a dealer 
> > does, the slimy “dealer fee”, “paperwork/transaction fees”. etc., etc.
> > 
> > Kaleb - you’re familiar with these places - do you have any thoughts about 
> > them? I realize they just cover the costs up front and as a result often 
> > charge more than dealers, but it makes it a lot easier to shop when you 
> > don’t have to do the mental math or go digging around for the list of fees 
> > on a web site.
> > 
> > -D
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