We never gave him the chance to exercise his sleaze gene.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:47 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You should have pressed for the Trucoat
>
> --FT
>
> On 2/15/21 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > When we bought our first and only new car - a 1976 Chevette - the
> salesman
> > quoted a full price of $3624.  That seemed reasonable, so we said OK.
> The
> > salesman was so stunned at our failure to bargain that he threw in a
> > complimentary undercoating worth $75.  That car served us well without
> any
> > major issues until we could afford our first Mercedes in 1982.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:16 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Exactly. This is what I want to avoid. Sure, I know the Carvana and
> CarMax
> >> people are still getting their pound of flesh, I just don’t want to deal
> >> with the BS. If I go the used route, and I probably will, that aspect of
> >> the transaction is amplified because there’s typically less room for
> >> haggling. That and you can’t really do the Internet buying thing with
> used
> >> vehicles.
> >>
> >> Private party is definitely better, but involves more effort on my part
> >> and has potentially more risk.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> When we bought the CPO 14ML350 we agreed on a price and had everything
> >> nailed down. I specifically said I was not paying any paperhandling
> fees,
> >> OK.  So after a little while the paperwork shows up, there's the doc
> fees
> >> listed on the total price calculation.  I pointed this out and the sales
> >> guy was like weeeeeelllll you know that is kinda standard blahblah so I
> >> said OK thanks for your time and we got up and walked out. Got in the
> truck
> >> and got settled, was backing out and here comes the sales guy running
> out
> >> and waving at me as I pull out of the parking spot.  He's like hey I
> worked
> >> it out we can do the deal!  And I say no thanks, we're done here, can't
> >> trust you, we can find another car somewhere.  So he starts begging no
> no
> >> no come on, it's OK, so I say OK give us a minute.  So we sit there for
> a
> >> few minutes, the guy is pacing at the door, we go back in and he is all
> >> apologetic, it was an error blahblah.  Yeah sure how about a $100
> credit in
> >> the swag store to make up for it and he is kinda shocked about that but
> >> says yeah sure so we do the deal and go into the swag shop and pick out
> a
> >> few things that probably cost them $20.
> >>> These people are just way too much.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>> On 2/14/21 7:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>> Here dealers will say the doc fees are required by the state. That is
> a
> >> lie. They are not required to charge doc fees at all. The law says if
> they
> >> charge doc fees they have to charge it to everyone. If somebody throws a
> >> fit they can deduct the amount off the sale price but it will still
> have to
> >> charge it in the fees.
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> When we bought the RAM I nearly walked over the doc fees. 30 years
> ago
> >> when there was a secretary typing it out I didn't like it but
> understood.
> >> Today they enter the price and the computer spits out all the forms
> >> automatically. IIRC it was $300 and I told the salesman that if the doc
> fee
> >> continued to show up he could shove the paperwork where the sun doesn't
> >> shine.
> >>>>> They said they'd take the doc fee off the price of the truck. I told
> >> them it'd have to be $500 off the price of the truck, he didn't even
> >> blink...
> >>>>> -Curt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 11:47:22 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
> >> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That’s the whole deal with Carvana and Carmax, no pressure and
> upfront
> >> pricing. As far as add ons, not sure about Carvana but I bought a GL at
> >> Carmax several years ago and they still charged doc fees just like any
> >> dealer. They also offered aftermarket warranties for add on costs as
> well.
> >>>>> I think with carvana they have some sort of deal were if you don’t
> >> like it you can return it within a certain amount of time for a full
> >> refund. It’s baciallj supposed to be just like shopping for a TV or
> >> something.
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> As I look at potential trucks, I see a lot of nice ones on Carvana.
> >> One big advantage of them is the fact that there’s no “add ons” like a
> >> dealer does, the slimy “dealer fee”, “paperwork/transaction fees”. etc.,
> >> etc.
> >>>>>> Kaleb - you’re familiar with these places - do you have any thoughts
> >> about them? I realize they just cover the costs up front and as a result
> >> often charge more than dealers, but it makes it a lot easier to shop
> when
> >> you don’t have to do the mental math or go digging around for the list
> of
> >> fees on a web site.
> >>>>>> -D
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