No I do not have the 3pt hitch either. Sounding like more trouble than it's 
worth.


On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 7:24 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Ahh, okay, wide frame but as I said in another note it doesn't seem 
> like it matters.
>
> Do you already have a 3pt hitch? You need one to mount the tiller on. 
> Those can be spendy.
>
> The sites I found also recommended spring assist or a hydraulic lift 
> (which was a factory option, or you could make your own) because of the 
> weight of the tiller. I've pulled a plow (plough for Fred), a disc 
> harrow, cultivator and back blade (not all at the same time) and they 
> do require significant arm strength to lift, way more than a mower deck 
> would.
>
> I guess I'm kind of on the look out for a creeper gear and tiller now, 
> that thing is pretty cool.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 07:05:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 
>
>
> It is an International Cub Cadet 128.
>
> https://www.tractordata.com/lawn-tractors/000/2/4/245-cub-cadet-128.html
>
> Mine has the 3-speed (and reverse) transmission, not the creeper.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 5:41 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Sounds like my former 1962 Wheel Horse. Built like a brick doghouse, 
>> however, not that great with anything other than a mower deck. I had a 
>> snowblower for it, but it was only single stage, so it wasn’t terribly 
>> effective. Pretty underpowered for the wet Midwestern snow.
>>
>> I think there was a tiller attachment for it, too, but like the 
>> snowblower I can see it being very good.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2022, at 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I will check when I get home. It's an older tractor, certainly older than 
>>> 1990s, weighs a ton, built like a tank.
>>> 
>>> It's set up and I've only used it as a mower (belly mower deck). It has 
>>> turf tires which also would not be great in a garden I guess. But I'll 
>>> check the model and get back to you.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>>> If it's belt drive it's not a narrow frame Cub Cadet, well unless it's 
>>>> an Original, those used a weird system where a belt went from the 
>>>> engine down to the driveshaft which went to the transmission. They're 
>>>> super weird because the belt runs vertically, not like modern garden 
>>>> tractors where the belt runs vertically from the engine to the 
>>>> transmission. Most people consider the Original to be special and not 
>>>> really a narrow frame tractor.
>>>> 
>>>> That tiller attaches to the tractor's 3pt hitch which is a proprietary 
>>>> thing, there is a C shaped bracket at the bottom of the transaxle, 
>>>> about inline with the axles and a lifting rod that pivots on the same 
>>>> bit the seat mounts to. They're uncommon and expensive.
>>>> 
>>>> Power for the tiller actually comes off the front of the tractor, a 
>>>> rear PTO is a very rare option. The belt goes down the front of the 
>>>> engine (these are all horizontal shaft engines) to a pair of wheels 
>>>> that turn it under the tractor (so horizontally) to the tiller at the 
>>>> rear. I've never actually seen one in person but it must be a very long 
>>>> belt.
>>>> 
>>>> I *think* you might be able to use a narrow frame tiller on a wide 
>>>> frame tractor but you won't be able to use it on a "modern" (say post 
>>>> 1990) lawn tractor. Certainly not one with a vertical shaft engine, at 
>>>> least not without major adaptation.
>>>> 
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 03:54:20 PM EST, Allan Streib 
>>>> <astr...@fastmail.fm> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah I need to check, I can't recall the model and not at home now. But 
>>>> I do know that everything is belt drive. 1st gear is pretty slow, but 
>>>> it does not have a Hi/low-range splitter.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>>>> What tractor do you have?
>>>>> This would work best on a hydrostatic machine or a gear machine with a 
>>>>> creeper gear.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've got a couple narrow frame Cubs, they're great.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 02:28:55 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts? Fair price?
>>>>> 
>>>>> This includes the gearbox and I think it would work on my tractor (need 
>>>>> to double check).
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/384696830760
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