Good point, hadn’t thought about those. I would have spent more time 
disassembling the old compressor to find out than it took to just swap it out 
with a new one. I think it took us under an hour to R&R the compressor and 
receiver/dryer on his W210.

-D

On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Or a cracked or broken valve plate. It will leak internally and never build 
pressure. High side and low side will have zero, or very little pressure 
difference. Of course you don't know until you start troubleshooting.


Rick

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So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or 
solenoid going bad.

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On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:33 PM, dan 
penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via 
Mercedes 
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 wrote:

I’ve worked with and am familiar with variable displacement pumps like this, I 
was just curious to see how they controlled the swash plate and how it 
interfaced with the pistons. Pretty slick.

-D

On Jul 26, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

We utilize that pump technology in the turbine control oil system at the old 
nuke plant.
Awesome video. If I were still trying to teach the little nubbins the concepts 
of the technology, I would likely used diagnoses Dan’s video.

AZBob

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On Jul 26, 2022, at 7:03 AM, dan 
penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via 
Mercedes 
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 wrote:

That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of the 
variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on how it 
was controlled. Good to know.

-D

On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the variable 
displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is the same. 
Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has failed with a 
crack or something.

https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI

Rick
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked any 
since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.

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On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a more 
expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long run but you 
save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy you are not 
killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle environmental costs of 
the new part is much worse than the old type.  Progress!

-_FT

On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more complicated.

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On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim 
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  wrote:

So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to replace.

Progress!

The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.

-- Jim


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