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Genuine: SKU: 000-270-26-00-80 Positions: Upper Other Names: Remanufactured Rs Ctrr Unit Electrohyd, Exchange Rs Ctrr Unit Electrohyd --FT Sent from iFōn > On Sep 1, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > FCP has lifetime warranty. > > But why do they call it a "conductor plate" and the covington site says it's > a "valve body" and does not fit the car selected? > > >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 13:31, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >> Same part number. Says it’s remanufactured which would be fine if it >> has a warranty. Probably one that had bad speed sensors or something >> and it was repaired. You can buy those off eBay for $250 but maybe not >> warranty that would be as good? >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> >>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yes the FCP part says it needs programming. But it's also 3x the price of >>> the part MB Covington listed. Are they really the same thing? >>> >>> https://www.mbofcovington.com/parts/order-parts.htm?path=%2Fsearch%3Fsearch_str%3D000270260080 >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 12:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >>>> The part is sourced from MB. Only way to get a new one. But it is >>>> “virgin “ and has no programming. You have to get MB or some third >>>> party to clone it. >>>> >>>> --FT >>>> Sent from iFōn >>>> >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:21 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good point. However, MB of Covington does have a phone number and will >>>>> talk to you about parts and applications over the phone. >>>>> >>>>> Interesting that they consider the conductor plate a theft relevant part. >>>>> I’ll have to ask my dealer guys/gals about this. I wonder how FCP buys >>>>> this if that’s truly the case? >>>>> >>>>> -D >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So this is an interesting example. Just as a random trial I went to >>>>>> mbofcovington.comn parts page and selected 2008 E350 "Base" model as my >>>>>> car and tried to find a transmission conductor plate. I'm sure it's in >>>>>> there, but I could not find it by searching for "conductor plate" or >>>>>> "conductor" or by the menu navigation. >>>>>> >>>>>> On FCPEuro I found it easily by selecting that vehicle and searhing for >>>>>> "conductor plate" and it lists it as "Genuine Mercedes" for $949. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600 >>>>>> >>>>>> Then I went back to MB Covington and searched for the SKU number >>>>>> (000270260080) that FCP Euro gave me. It came up with an entry called >>>>>> "Automatic Transmission Valve Body" that "Does not fit your 2008 >>>>>> Mercedes Benz E350" and is also "This item is considered a theft >>>>>> relevant part and is not available for purchase online. Please contact >>>>>> your local dealer for more information." List price is $369 for this >>>>>> "remanufactured" part. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, as a non-professional customer, the FCPEuro experience is way >>>>>> better. I'm not even sure I'm finding the right part on MB Covington. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>>> I totally understand this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, if you’re buying online, there are any number of RevParts >>>>>>> dealers (dealers who sell parts online) that sell with very good >>>>>>> discount models making OE parts pretty darned cheap, relatively >>>>>>> speaking. And I’m addressing OE parts, not OEM parts that you can buy >>>>>>> from a third party seller like FCPEuro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, I bought the driver’s side exterior mirror guts for my >>>>>>> ML550. List was around $500, my dealer’s price to me was around $375, >>>>>>> MB of Covington wanted $250 + about $17 to ship. Easy decision. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same with a right side exterior mirror cover. List about $300, my >>>>>>> dealer about $200, MB of Covington was like $140 + $17 shipping. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dealers use different discount structures. Some discount “down” from >>>>>>> MSRP, or list price. Others, like Covington, mark “up" from their cost. >>>>>>> As cost varies wildly depending on the part and other factors you can >>>>>>> often get a much better deal working with an online dealer like MB of >>>>>>> Covington who marks up from cost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All well and good if you have a dealership where you can walk in and >>>>>>>> talk to people. I am 75 miles from an MB dealer, and it's not anywere >>>>>>>> I go on a regular basis otherwise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I used to buy parts from Rusty back in the day. I think he had a >>>>>>>> dealer relationship where he could get OE parts when WorldPac didn't >>>>>>>> carry the OEM equivalent? These days I use FCPEuro because the website >>>>>>>> and service is great, they warranty everything they sell for life, and >>>>>>>> they actually honor that warranty without me jumping through hoops. If >>>>>>>> FCPEuro didn't have a part, I guess I'd start looking at dealer >>>>>>>> websites. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:11, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>>>>> Depending on what the part is, the discount model that MB of >>>>>>>>> Covington >>>>>>>>> uses usually makes it a wash or slightly less than my local dealer >>>>>>>>> due >>>>>>>>> to sales taxes. However, I discussed this with my dealer a few weeks >>>>>>>>> ago and they said they would match Covington’s price for me, so in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> future I’ll price check using Covington and then go to my local >>>>>>>>> dealer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe it’s an anomaly, but my dealer empowers their employees to make >>>>>>>>> the deal to get a sale. That’s really great for both of us, because >>>>>>>>> they get the business and I get the best price. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a >>>>>>>>>> rip off. The shipping from the online places usually ends up being >>>>>>>>>> too much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from >>>>>>>>>>> the dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the >>>>>>>>>>> dealer in most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, >>>>>>>>>>> which certainly has value. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -D >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible >>>>>>>>>>>> although some cars that come they might fit that description. All >>>>>>>>>>>> of my drivers are properly maintained with OE or OEM parts. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppliers >>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost >>>>>>>>>>>>> effective >>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement. If there is a demand, they will try to find a >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>>>>>>>> They're a business, not a parts charity. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Next complaint will be that reworked replacement parts are too >>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It takes significant resources to manufacture any parts for any >>>>>>>>>>>>> car, new or >>>>>>>>>>>>> old. Engineers, purchasing, business cases, testing, quality >>>>>>>>>>>>> control, raw >>>>>>>>>>>>> materials sourcing, tooling, etc. They don't just walk up to a >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine and >>>>>>>>>>>>> push the "make me door seals for a 123" button. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think about how you buy your parts...are you supporting the >>>>>>>>>>>>> system by >>>>>>>>>>>>> buying from MB genuine? Or are you looking for the cheapest >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>>>>>>> source regardless of quality? Then complaining when MB support >>>>>>>>>>>>> is gone... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Owners of the 60s cars are happy to pay for parts as the value of >>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>> cars are increasing. MB responds by making parts available. >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Like 4.5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> engine mounts, NLA for a few years, now available again with a new >>>>>>>>>>>>> supplier). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 90s car support brings up another issue: electronics. If the >>>>>>>>>>>>> chips don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> exist to buy anymore, its simply impossible to make the parts. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Period. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But as the value and demand for these cars increases on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> collector >>>>>>>>>>>>> market, you will see more solutions appear. If your goal is to >>>>>>>>>>>>> keep your >>>>>>>>>>>>> beater on the road as long as possible and cheap as possible, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you're not >>>>>>>>>>>>> the target market for these solutions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:03 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 123 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> coupes. A lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum pods >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are NLA. As previously mentioned you can no longer get 123 oil >>>>>>>>>>>>>> coolers or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 126 SDL radiators. Vin coded ignition tumblers for 123 124 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 126 are NLA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps they want to support very old cars or very new cars, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aged 123-126 they don’t care about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:57 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very true. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was “restoring” the 65 220SEb I was constantly amazed at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts I could still get from Mercedes, and in most cases, how >>>>>>>>>>>>>> relatively >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inexpensive they were. For instance, I could still get a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubber >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts, both seals and suspension. A full set of bushings for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rear swing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arms were less than $100. New front/rear springs, $110/each. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The left front spring was really bad on that car, so bad that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corner of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the car was a good 2” low. Dealer checks on them and none in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stock, but not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NLA. Turns out, they had run out of inventory and were waiting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> order. So they were still sourcing these things over 50 year >>>>>>>>>>>>>> after the car >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was built! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:27 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try getting parts for 50s and 60s cars. You'd be amazed how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to be creative in this business to find parts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the classic center is pretty amazing overall. It's pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>>> remarkable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they do have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, I just bought a vacuum pod for the distributor of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 300SEL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.5. Pretty obscure part, still available, under $100. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it perfect, no of course not, but be thankful they put so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much effort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into it, its still pretty special. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:31 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window regulator kit (the little nylon disc and clip) is NLA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaleb Striplin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct? The number of common parts that are becoming NLA is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alarming. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC. Tom retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hes still active online. I get parts deliveries all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still excellent service and loads of parts in stock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 4:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not heard that. I don?t think the classic center >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really does >>>>>>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore anyway does it? They only have the same parts any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dealer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:14 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?I may be late to the party, but I recently learned that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Hanson >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired from the MB Classic Center. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 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