FCP has lifetime warranty.

But why do they call it a "conductor plate" and the covington site says it's a 
"valve body" and does not fit the car selected?


On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 13:31, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Same part number. Says it’s remanufactured which would be fine if it 
> has a warranty. Probably one that had bad speed sensors or something 
> and it was repaired. You can buy those off eBay for $250 but maybe not 
> warranty that would be as good?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes the FCP part says it needs programming. But it's also 3x the price of 
>> the part MB Covington listed. Are they really the same thing?
>> 
>> https://www.mbofcovington.com/parts/order-parts.htm?path=%2Fsearch%3Fsearch_str%3D000270260080
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 12:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The part is sourced from MB. Only way to get a new one. But it is 
>>> “virgin “ and has no programming. You have to get MB or some third 
>>> party to clone it. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:21 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good point. However, MB of Covington does have a phone number and will 
>>>> talk to you about parts and applications over the phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting that they consider the conductor plate a theft relevant part. 
>>>> I’ll have to ask my dealer guys/gals about this. I wonder how FCP buys 
>>>> this if that’s truly the case?
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So this is an interesting example. Just as a random trial I went to 
>>>>> mbofcovington.comn parts page and selected 2008 E350 "Base" model as my 
>>>>> car and tried to find a transmission conductor plate. I'm sure it's in 
>>>>> there, but I could not find it by searching for "conductor plate" or 
>>>>> "conductor" or by the menu navigation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On FCPEuro I found it easily by selecting that vehicle and searhing for 
>>>>> "conductor plate" and it lists it as "Genuine Mercedes" for $949.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then I went back to MB Covington and searched for the SKU number 
>>>>> (000270260080) that FCP Euro gave me. It came up with an entry called 
>>>>> "Automatic Transmission Valve Body" that "Does not fit your 2008 Mercedes 
>>>>> Benz E350" and is also "This item is considered a theft relevant part and 
>>>>> is not available for purchase online. Please contact your local dealer 
>>>>> for more information." List price is $369 for this "remanufactured" part.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, as a non-professional customer, the FCPEuro experience is way better. 
>>>>> I'm not even sure I'm finding the right part on MB Covington.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> I totally understand this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, if you’re buying online, there are any number of RevParts 
>>>>>> dealers (dealers who sell parts online) that sell with very good 
>>>>>> discount models making OE parts pretty darned cheap, relatively 
>>>>>> speaking. And I’m addressing OE parts, not OEM parts that you can buy 
>>>>>> from a third party seller like FCPEuro.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For example, I bought the driver’s side exterior mirror guts for my 
>>>>>> ML550. List was around $500, my dealer’s price to me was around $375, 
>>>>>> MB of Covington wanted $250 + about $17 to ship. Easy decision.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same with a right side exterior mirror cover. List about $300, my 
>>>>>> dealer about $200, MB of Covington was like $140 + $17 shipping.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dealers use different discount structures. Some discount “down” from 
>>>>>> MSRP, or list price. Others, like Covington, mark “up" from their cost. 
>>>>>> As cost varies wildly depending on the part and other factors you can 
>>>>>> often get a much better deal working with an online dealer like MB of 
>>>>>> Covington who marks up from cost.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All well and good if you have a dealership where you can walk in and 
>>>>>>> talk to people. I am 75 miles from an MB dealer, and it's not anywere I 
>>>>>>> go on a regular basis otherwise.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used to buy parts from Rusty back in the day. I think he had a dealer 
>>>>>>> relationship where he could get OE parts when WorldPac didn't carry the 
>>>>>>> OEM equivalent? These days I use FCPEuro because the website and 
>>>>>>> service is great, they warranty everything they sell for life, and they 
>>>>>>> actually honor that warranty without me jumping through hoops. If 
>>>>>>> FCPEuro didn't have a part, I guess I'd start looking at dealer 
>>>>>>> websites.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:11, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Depending on what the part is, the discount model that MB of Covington 
>>>>>>>> uses usually makes it a wash or slightly less than my local dealer due 
>>>>>>>> to sales taxes. However, I discussed this with my dealer a few weeks 
>>>>>>>> ago and they said they would match Covington’s price for me, so in the 
>>>>>>>> future I’ll price check using Covington and then go to my local dealer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe it’s an anomaly, but my dealer empowers their employees to make 
>>>>>>>> the deal to get a sale. That’s really great for both of us, because 
>>>>>>>> they get the business and I get the best price.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a 
>>>>>>>>> rip off. The shipping from the online places usually ends up being 
>>>>>>>>> too much. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from 
>>>>>>>>>> the dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the 
>>>>>>>>>> dealer in most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, 
>>>>>>>>>> which certainly has value.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible 
>>>>>>>>>>> although some cars that come they might fit that description. All 
>>>>>>>>>>> of my drivers are properly maintained with OE or OEM parts. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> suppliers
>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost 
>>>>>>>>>>>> effective
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement.  If there is a demand, they will try to find a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They're a business, not a parts charity.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Next complaint will be that reworked replacement parts are too 
>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It takes significant resources to manufacture any parts for any 
>>>>>>>>>>>> car, new or
>>>>>>>>>>>> old.  Engineers, purchasing, business cases, testing, quality 
>>>>>>>>>>>> control, raw
>>>>>>>>>>>> materials sourcing, tooling, etc.  They don't just walk up to a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine and
>>>>>>>>>>>> push the "make me door seals for a 123" button.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Think about how you buy your parts...are you supporting the system 
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> buying from MB genuine?  Or are you looking for the cheapest 
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>> source regardless of quality?  Then complaining when MB support is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> gone...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Owners of the 60s cars are happy to pay for parts as the value of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> cars are increasing.  MB responds by making parts available.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Like 4.5
>>>>>>>>>>>> engine mounts, NLA for a few years, now available again with a new
>>>>>>>>>>>> supplier).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 90s car support brings up another issue:  electronics.  If the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> chips don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist to buy anymore, its simply impossible to make the parts.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Period.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But as the value and demand for these cars increases on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> collector
>>>>>>>>>>>> market, you will see more solutions appear.  If your goal is to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> keep your
>>>>>>>>>>>> beater on the road as long as possible and cheap as possible, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you're not
>>>>>>>>>>>> the target market for these solutions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:03 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 123
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coupes. A lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum pods
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are NLA. As previously mentioned you can no longer get 123 oil 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coolers or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 126 SDL radiators. Vin coded ignition tumblers for 123 124 and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 126 are NLA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps they want to support very old cars or very new cars, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aged 123-126 they don’t care about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:57 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was “restoring” the 65 220SEb I was constantly amazed at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts I could still get from Mercedes, and in most cases, how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relatively
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inexpensive they were. For instance, I could still get a lot of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubber
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts, both seals and suspension. A full set of bushings for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rear swing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arms were less than $100. New front/rear springs, $110/each.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The left front spring was really bad on that car, so bad that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corner of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the car was a good 2” low. Dealer checks on them and none in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stock, but not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NLA. Turns out, they had run out of inventory and were waiting on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> order. So they were still sourcing these things over 50 year 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after the car
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was built!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:27 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try getting parts for 50s and 60s cars.  You'd be amazed how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to be creative in this business to find parts, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the classic center is pretty amazing overall.  It's pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remarkable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they do have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, I just bought a vacuum pod for the distributor of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 300SEL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.  Pretty obscure part, still available, under $100.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it perfect, no of course not, but be thankful they put so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much effort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into it, its still pretty special.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:31 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window regulator kit (the little nylon disc and clip) is NLA. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaleb Striplin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct? The number of common parts that are becoming NLA is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alarming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC.  Tom retired 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hes still active online.  I get parts deliveries all the time 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still excellent service and loads of parts in stock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 4:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not heard that. I don?t think the classic center 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore anyway does it? They only have the same parts any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dealer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:14 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?I may be late to the party, but I recently learned that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Hanson
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired from the MB Classic Center.
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