Same part number. Says it’s remanufactured which would be fine if it has a warranty. Probably one that had bad speed sensors or something and it was repaired. You can buy those off eBay for $250 but maybe not warranty that would be as good?
--FT Sent from iFōn > On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > Yes the FCP part says it needs programming. But it's also 3x the price of > the part MB Covington listed. Are they really the same thing? > > https://www.mbofcovington.com/parts/order-parts.htm?path=%2Fsearch%3Fsearch_str%3D000270260080 > > > >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 12:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >> The part is sourced from MB. Only way to get a new one. But it is >> “virgin “ and has no programming. You have to get MB or some third >> party to clone it. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> >>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:21 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Good point. However, MB of Covington does have a phone number and will >>> talk to you about parts and applications over the phone. >>> >>> Interesting that they consider the conductor plate a theft relevant part. >>> I’ll have to ask my dealer guys/gals about this. I wonder how FCP buys this >>> if that’s truly the case? >>> >>> -D >>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> So this is an interesting example. Just as a random trial I went to >>>> mbofcovington.comn parts page and selected 2008 E350 "Base" model as my >>>> car and tried to find a transmission conductor plate. I'm sure it's in >>>> there, but I could not find it by searching for "conductor plate" or >>>> "conductor" or by the menu navigation. >>>> >>>> On FCPEuro I found it easily by selecting that vehicle and searhing for >>>> "conductor plate" and it lists it as "Genuine Mercedes" for $949. >>>> >>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600 >>>> >>>> Then I went back to MB Covington and searched for the SKU number >>>> (000270260080) that FCP Euro gave me. It came up with an entry called >>>> "Automatic Transmission Valve Body" that "Does not fit your 2008 Mercedes >>>> Benz E350" and is also "This item is considered a theft relevant part and >>>> is not available for purchase online. Please contact your local dealer for >>>> more information." List price is $369 for this "remanufactured" part. >>>> >>>> So, as a non-professional customer, the FCPEuro experience is way better. >>>> I'm not even sure I'm finding the right part on MB Covington. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>> I totally understand this. >>>>> >>>>> However, if you’re buying online, there are any number of RevParts >>>>> dealers (dealers who sell parts online) that sell with very good >>>>> discount models making OE parts pretty darned cheap, relatively >>>>> speaking. And I’m addressing OE parts, not OEM parts that you can buy >>>>> from a third party seller like FCPEuro. >>>>> >>>>> For example, I bought the driver’s side exterior mirror guts for my >>>>> ML550. List was around $500, my dealer’s price to me was around $375, >>>>> MB of Covington wanted $250 + about $17 to ship. Easy decision. >>>>> >>>>> Same with a right side exterior mirror cover. List about $300, my >>>>> dealer about $200, MB of Covington was like $140 + $17 shipping. >>>>> >>>>> Dealers use different discount structures. Some discount “down” from >>>>> MSRP, or list price. Others, like Covington, mark “up" from their cost. >>>>> As cost varies wildly depending on the part and other factors you can >>>>> often get a much better deal working with an online dealer like MB of >>>>> Covington who marks up from cost. >>>>> >>>>> -D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> All well and good if you have a dealership where you can walk in and >>>>>> talk to people. I am 75 miles from an MB dealer, and it's not anywere I >>>>>> go on a regular basis otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> I used to buy parts from Rusty back in the day. I think he had a dealer >>>>>> relationship where he could get OE parts when WorldPac didn't carry the >>>>>> OEM equivalent? These days I use FCPEuro because the website and service >>>>>> is great, they warranty everything they sell for life, and they actually >>>>>> honor that warranty without me jumping through hoops. If FCPEuro didn't >>>>>> have a part, I guess I'd start looking at dealer websites. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 11:11, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>>> Depending on what the part is, the discount model that MB of Covington >>>>>>> uses usually makes it a wash or slightly less than my local dealer due >>>>>>> to sales taxes. However, I discussed this with my dealer a few weeks >>>>>>> ago and they said they would match Covington’s price for me, so in the >>>>>>> future I’ll price check using Covington and then go to my local dealer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe it’s an anomaly, but my dealer empowers their employees to make >>>>>>> the deal to get a sale. That’s really great for both of us, because >>>>>>> they get the business and I get the best price. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -D >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a >>>>>>>> rip off. The shipping from the online places usually ends up being too >>>>>>>> much. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from >>>>>>>>> the dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the >>>>>>>>> dealer in most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, >>>>>>>>> which certainly has value. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible >>>>>>>>>> although some cars that come they might fit that description. All of >>>>>>>>>> my drivers are properly maintained with OE or OEM parts. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of >>>>>>>>>>> suppliers >>>>>>>>>>> no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost effective >>>>>>>>>>> replacement. If there is a demand, they will try to find a >>>>>>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>>>>>> They're a business, not a parts charity. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Next complaint will be that reworked replacement parts are too >>>>>>>>>>> expensive. >>>>>>>>>>> It takes significant resources to manufacture any parts for any >>>>>>>>>>> car, new or >>>>>>>>>>> old. Engineers, purchasing, business cases, testing, quality >>>>>>>>>>> control, raw >>>>>>>>>>> materials sourcing, tooling, etc. They don't just walk up to a >>>>>>>>>>> machine and >>>>>>>>>>> push the "make me door seals for a 123" button. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Think about how you buy your parts...are you supporting the system >>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>> buying from MB genuine? Or are you looking for the cheapest >>>>>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>>>>> source regardless of quality? Then complaining when MB support is >>>>>>>>>>> gone... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Owners of the 60s cars are happy to pay for parts as the value of >>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>> cars are increasing. MB responds by making parts available. (Like >>>>>>>>>>> 4.5 >>>>>>>>>>> engine mounts, NLA for a few years, now available again with a new >>>>>>>>>>> supplier). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 90s car support brings up another issue: electronics. If the >>>>>>>>>>> chips don't >>>>>>>>>>> exist to buy anymore, its simply impossible to make the parts. >>>>>>>>>>> Period. >>>>>>>>>>> But as the value and demand for these cars increases on the >>>>>>>>>>> collector >>>>>>>>>>> market, you will see more solutions appear. If your goal is to >>>>>>>>>>> keep your >>>>>>>>>>> beater on the road as long as possible and cheap as possible, >>>>>>>>>>> you're not >>>>>>>>>>> the target market for these solutions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:03 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals for >>>>>>>>>>>> 123 >>>>>>>>>>>> coupes. A lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC >>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum pods >>>>>>>>>>>> are NLA. As previously mentioned you can no longer get 123 oil >>>>>>>>>>>> coolers or >>>>>>>>>>>> 126 SDL radiators. Vin coded ignition tumblers for 123 124 and 126 >>>>>>>>>>>> are NLA. >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps they want to support very old cars or very new cars, but >>>>>>>>>>>> middle >>>>>>>>>>>> aged 123-126 they don’t care about. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:57 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Very true. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was “restoring” the 65 220SEb I was constantly amazed at >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> parts I could still get from Mercedes, and in most cases, how >>>>>>>>>>>> relatively >>>>>>>>>>>> inexpensive they were. For instance, I could still get a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>> rubber >>>>>>>>>>>> parts, both seals and suspension. A full set of bushings for the >>>>>>>>>>>> rear swing >>>>>>>>>>>> arms were less than $100. New front/rear springs, $110/each. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The left front spring was really bad on that car, so bad that >>>>>>>>>>>>> corner of >>>>>>>>>>>> the car was a good 2” low. Dealer checks on them and none in >>>>>>>>>>>> stock, but not >>>>>>>>>>>> NLA. Turns out, they had run out of inventory and were waiting on >>>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>>> order. So they were still sourcing these things over 50 year after >>>>>>>>>>>> the car >>>>>>>>>>>> was built! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -D >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:27 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try getting parts for 50s and 60s cars. You'd be amazed how >>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to be creative in this business to find parts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a >>>>>>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the classic center is pretty amazing overall. It's pretty >>>>>>>>>>>> remarkable >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they do have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, I just bought a vacuum pod for the distributor of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 300SEL >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.5. Pretty obscure part, still available, under $100. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it perfect, no of course not, but be thankful they put so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> much effort >>>>>>>>>>>>>> into it, its still pretty special. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:31 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window regulator kit (the little nylon disc and clip) is NLA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaleb Striplin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct? The number of common parts that are becoming NLA is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alarming. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC. Tom retired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago, >>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hes still active online. I get parts deliveries all the time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>> them, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still excellent service and loads of parts in stock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 4:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not heard that. I don?t think the classic center >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really does >>>>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore anyway does it? They only have the same parts any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>> dealer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:14 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?I may be late to the party, but I recently learned that Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hanson >>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired from the MB Classic Center. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Kopchinski >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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