To be honest, with a 3 foot length of pipe, I had to "jerk" the pipe to
break them lose.  Even after allowing them to heat sink, they were by far
the tightest lugbolts I have ever felt.  I really was worried that the wheel
was damaged, but it seems ok, no visable hairline cracks anyway.

Ed
300E

On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't think he was serious about the 250 ft lb, just stressing the fact
> that they were way over-torqued.
>
> That's OK, I was an Engineer once but now I'm a "Recovering Engineer".
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Robert Bigham
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:09 PM
> To: E M; mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
>
> 250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on
> steel
>
> or alloy road wheels.
>
> My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them
> to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion.
>
> No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder
> is
> that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel,
> or
> hub.
>
> "Engineered like no other car"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: E M
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
>
>
> Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when
> you
> torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things
> can
> kind of stick themselves together! :-)  ( Note to me: never never leave
> the
> car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!)  All fixed now
> and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too.
> Just have to do the other three now.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
>
> On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yu have another problem - the wheel should sit flush with the hub with no
> interference. With the last one of these I had, the lip on the inside of
> the
> wheel was damaged.
>
> Adding anti-seize is just working around the issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Robert Bigham
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:12 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
>
> I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with
> loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub.  Wow.
>
> How could anti sieze hurt?  Use it.  I use it on just about
> everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or
> adhesive on the bolt or joint.  Anti sieze is one of the great
> inventions of the age of old cars.
>
> Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind
> up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim.  And the problem
> then would be ?
>
>
> Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400
> Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel!!!!!
>
> "E M" < [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote
>
> Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in
> shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the
> bolts
> off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After
> finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing
> it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a
> hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on
> the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was
> on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on
> so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!!
>
> So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on
> lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim,
> where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the
> rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in
> the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> 300E
>
>
>
>
>
>
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