yeah, i'd figure about 10 hours a week of actual learning should beat out 30 to 40 hours a week of busy work, propaganda and art projects about martin luther king.
On Jan 8, 2008 11:32 PM, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only object to home schooling when when the parent's beliefs differ > from my own. I'm being sarcastic, but have to admit that I must > periodically remind myself that it's the parent's right to raise their > kids as they see fit. > > If you give your child 2 hours a day of focused concentration on any > learning plan, you have accomplished more than any public or private > school can. > > -Dave Walton > > On Jan 8, 2008 11:11 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe that the government is a force for evil that exists to enrich > > itself and is currently at war with the people on every level. I > believe > > that education is a gimmick to give a lot of stupid people part time > jobs > > with full time pay and has no objective beyond that, other than > political > > indoctrinating the "students" to go along with the program. > > > > I could go on further, but I feel i've said enough to qualify for > tinfoil. > > I think you are a sucker and a fool and you think i'm flat nuts. what > else > > is new? > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 10:16 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I hope you are correct. It will all depend on (1) the education ethic > of > > > the > > > child and (2) the RULES set down by the ADULT in charge of the > educational > > > process. > > > > > > Nothing different from public schools. The kids who want to learn > will. > > > Those who aren't interested can't be beat into submission. > > > > > > As for the gubment corrupting the children ... send me your address so > I > > > can > > > provide the raw materials for your tin foil hat. > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 8:53 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > i would be happy to have my kid take any standard government test > and > > > > when she scores in the top few percentile, i would like them to just > > > > leave us the hell alone and quit wasting our time and robbing our > > > > spirit. way back in the day, you were finished being educated by > the > > > > time you were 14 or 15 and if you actually knew something, you'd go > to > > > > harvard or princeton till you were about 18. that was legitimate > > > > education. > > > > > > > > we now have 19 year olds who can barely read on a 4th grade level > > > > taking up space at a cost of 5 figures a year and tell people this > > > > somehow benefits the children. this is a lie. what would benefit > the > > > > children is to let the smart ones finish high school at the age of > 14 > > > > and let the dumb ones go work in the mines. the idea of of dumbing > > > > and slowing it down so the smart ones are locked up bored to tears > > > > until 18 so the dumb ones can actually follow it (which they won't > > > > because they are stupid and they don't care) benefits no one but the > > > > "educators" who get rich off this. > > > > > > > > NOTHING is to benefit the children. NOTHING is to benefit the poor. > > > > NOTHING is to benefit most of us. The government only benefits > itself > > > > and only brings desolation to the citizenry. If we were a decent > and > > > > intelligent society, we would demand they be dismantled, but we are > > > > stupid dupes who believe propaganda. at least in the old soviet > > > > union, no one over the age of 10 believed the nonsense they were fed > > > > by the government. I suppose the russians are just that much > smarter > > > > than we are. > > > > > > > > On 1/8/08, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > At the risk of turning the conversation back to home schooling, > one > > > must > > > > > understand why the government came up with this sort of "go to > school" > > > > rule > > > > > in the first place. It was for the protection of the children, > not as > > > > some > > > > > sort of evil government meddling. > > > > > > > > > > Where I grew up (West Virginia), it wasn't unusual -- not too many > > > years > > > > > before I was born in 1952 -- for kids to enter the coal mines at > the > > > age > > > > of > > > > > 12, or even younger, and labor there for an entire lifetime. The > > > purpose > > > > of > > > > > the compulsory education law was to give these kids a chance at a > > > better > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Although we'd hope that human nature would act differently, we > have to > > > > > understand that there were fathers who'd put their kids into the > mines > > > > at a > > > > > very early age, if only for the wages that would be brought home. > Hey, > > > > if > > > > > Daddy didn't get much schooling then why do the sons need > schooling? > > > > > > > > > > Fortunately, laws were passed and, at least at the time I was > > > graduated, > > > > a > > > > > child had to be in school until age 16. I think that might have > been > > > > raised > > > > > to age 18. > > > > > > > > > > Now ... if you want to home school the kids *and* they will get a > good > > > > > education, then I have no issues with that. The goal is an > educated > > > > > individual. If a parent lays out a curriculum and sticks to it, > the > > > > child > > > > > might get a superior education. > > > > > > > > > > As for those of you who are worried about the "gubmint" > indoctrinating > > > a > > > > > child with socialist views in school, I must differ. I am *way* > more > > > > worried > > > > > about the child be indoctrinated with way more dangerous > philosophies, > > > > > mostly religious in nature. All three of my children went to > public > > > > schools. > > > > > None are atheists. All three are pretty good citizens. My > > > step-daughter > > > > is > > > > > the "dummy" of the trio, having only a 3.6 GPA as a university > junior. > > > > > > > > > > And before you think I have my head up my rear, I was *there* at > BJU > > > > when > > > > > this home school movement was launched, and knew some of the folks > who > > > > were > > > > > writing the curriculum. You worry about your child being perverted > > > > during > > > > > twelve years of public education? Just give them twelve years of > > > > > BJU-prepared stuff. > > > > > > > > > > I am a product of a sheltered Fundamentalist upbringing and am > > > slightly > > > > > screwed up as a result. > > > > > > > > > > Fortunately, I broke out (in my mid-20s) and am still a recovering > > > > > Fundamentalist. > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:33 PM, Rich Thomas < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Great idea! Perhaps the presidential candidates will take this > up > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > plank in their "law n' order" platform (I think Fred might > already > > > be > > > > > > there!). It will bi-partisan support, who is the best one to > make > > > > that > > > > > > change? > > > > > > > > > > > > --R (I'm for change and the best one to make it!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > > > > > > Yah, right. At the same time why don't you pass a law making > > > > convenience > > > > > > > store robberies illegal? 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