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By: Julian Aronowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On: Tuesday, January 23, 2001, 12:31:16 AM
Re: [Miami] Re: Calling from elsewhere.
Hi Julian,
>>>>>> If I want to use my computer hooked up to a different phone number,
>>>>>> than the one I used when I initialized Miami, but I still want to
>>>>>> be able to use Miami on the original phone number, how do I
>>>>>> proceed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask the question, because, when I tried doing just that, I was
>>>>>> not able to connect through any of the ISP's I use.
>>> Here are my findings. First, in my case, my ISP neither checks for my
>>> phone number, via caller-id, nor does a callback; so that rules out
>>> the ISP angle. What is left are the physical and the programming.
>>>
>>> I was able to eliminate the physical and conclude that it is Miami,
>>> because I remembered that, about a month ago, I visited a friend of
>>> mine, and brought my MS Windows powered notebook computer, to show him
>>> how to work with the Internet. When I attached my computer to his
>>> phone line and tried to log into any one of my three dialup ISP's
>>> (MetConnect, MindSpring, and AmigaOnLine), I was not able to complete
>>> the process. The stacker-dialer ("Network-Dialup") refused doing it
>>> because it found a different "home" number than the one I had first
>>> typed in, when telling it where to dial. Once I added my friends
>>> number to the list, and told it that that was the current correct
>>> "home" number, I had no problems hooking up.
>> That would be a Windows problem, of it not liking something peculiar to
>> his phone number or system. i.e. Related to the computer itself, not the
>> ISP, and changing the dialing properties would not be doing anything
>> different that the ISP would be able to know about.
>>> I suspected that Miami was doing the same thing. I was hoping that
>>> one of you might know a fast way to alter the "init" file to add other
>>> "home" phone numbers. If I do not find a work around, soon, I will
>>> create a separate "init" file with my Dad's number as the "home"
>>> number. So, if any of you has found an alternate way to do what I want
>>> to do, I am still interested in hearing your ideas.
>> Miami doesn't have a "home" number. It doesn't know what number you're
>> dialing from, so "it" has no way to tell the difference between whether
>> you call up your ISP from one place or another.
>>
>> If re-running the MiamiInit program provides a configuration that works
>> for the alternative numbers, then something else has provided the
>> solution.
>>
>> Two things springs to mind. A technical fault on a phone line. Or, an
>> operational difference in the phone systems. Seeing as your ISP assures
>> you that they don't care where you call from.
> One, I do not, nor have I ever confused MS Windows with Amiga WorkBench.
> I do not confuse the MS Network-Dialup with Miami. What I did notice
> was that both are stacker-dialers functioning in much the same way, as
> each does not care what mail client or browser you use.
They're both the same, in that they facilitate TCP/IP communications.
Either statement has no bearing on the problem in hand. I was pointing
out that your observations about what made Windows eventually let you
connect up, has no relation to modifying some part of your Miami
configuration to do the same trick.
You brought up the comment that changing a parameter in your Windows
dialer allowed you to call the ISP. There's no equivalent parameter in
the Amiga software, nor would such a change make any difference.
Unless your ISP is doing some form of caller ID, or call back, which
you've said they don't, there's no exchange of information between
yourself and the ISP about where you're calling from. The cause of the
problem is something else.
> As far as telephone lines go, the differences between my line and my
> Dad's line and my friend's line, are the telephone exchanges and the
> fact the only I have any special service -- call waiting. All three
> have the same area code, as we all live within a few city blocks from
> one another. The rest of the phone service is identical and provided by
> the same company, plus, the calls to my ISP's are local calls. The one
> thing I do, with phone numbers I call, is to add a prefix to disable my
> call-waiting, while I am on the Internet. This prefix does nothing when
> used with a line that does not have the call waiting service.
Have you actually tested that? On one exchange here, if I use the call
waiting disable code, where the exchange doesn't have that service, the
exchange gives an error message. Which, of course, means the number
dialed after the disable code never gets received by the exchange.
This is looking like the most likely cause of your problems. How far does
Miami get through attempting to connect to the ISP, before it fails?
Does the ISP answer the line?
Does any handshaking occur?
Does it get to the stage of logging on?
> I do remember that you must type in your own phone number, when you run
> the Miami Init program. I just wanted to know whether there were a fast
> and easy work around, other than run ning that program again?
Nup, you don't. You type in the number for the ISP you're dialling, not
your own phone number.
I'm wondering, now, if you're trying to get Miami to dial your own number,
instead of the ISPs. Which, of course, will result in a busy tone.
> Your monitor problem. You have none (so to speak). If you can get your
> hands on an A520 (a one piece converter which attaches to the RGB port
> of the Amiga and, with simple audio cables with RCA plugs, attaches to
> your TV set. You will not have as sharp an image (printing, etc.) as
> with a computer monitor, but, until you get another computer moniter,
> for your Amiga, you will be able to use your Amiga. Now, you just have
> to find someplace that sells the A520.
Yeah, I know I can use the video out. And I wouldn't need the modulator
either, it's an Amiga 1200, they've got one built in. But, there's other
mitigating circumstances as to why I've not done much about it yet. It's
quite difficult, at the moment, to hook into another monitor. And, for
some reason (I suspect bad mains spikes, monitors are literally going
"bang!" So, I'm hesitant to do anythi)ng, 'till I resolve that.
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