It is still your choice to eat those foods. Don't eat as many processed food and coke.

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On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:30 AM, "Dan Scolnick" <[email protected]> wrote:

there's a club up the street (a place to go to, not something to be bludgeoned with),

where people actually PAY to be tortured and abused.

but then again, i live on a small island off the east coast.

probably not representative of places, like, say, wyoming. Isn't that where matthew shepard chose to go to a bar?

Seriously though, high fructose corn syrup is put in almost everything we can easily buy in mainstream stores. it is not metabolized well by the body and leads to obesity. Using it makes money for the big food producers, just like NOT testing cows for mad cow, makes money for the big food producers.

how does this make sense?

read fast food nation

dan


From: [email protected] [mailto:miatapower- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Russ
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:26 AM
To: Miata Power List
Subject: Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate

OMG! People who are poor choose to be poor or are lazy?! LOL
So people who are obese choose to be obese?

I agree that in some cases these can be true, but certainly not universally!

Next thing we'll hear is that abused women & children choose to be.

Sigh.

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On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:59 AM, Casey Wheeler wrote:

Jim is absolutly correct and probably makes the point better than I did. Most people have health conditions due to their own choices. Furthermore, people without ins. Don't have ins. by their own doing. The people that "need" social healthcare are the people who are most apathetic. We all have the freedom and choice to take this path or another. If people make better choices, life is better/ easier. Our society has become so.... So lazy, pathetic, apathtic... Something, I can't find the right description... Take some personal responsibility and handle your business.

Casey

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On Sep 25, 2009, at 8:18 AM, [email protected] wrote:

I decided I must weigh in on this one after all. I do work at the largest hospital in my immediate area, which just happens to be the only for profit hospital in southern Arizona. My observations are first hand, not something I've seen on TV or read about.

I don't honestly believe we have a 'healthcare' crisis. I believe that we do have a 'wellness' crisis. More accurately, a lack of wellness crisis. The vast majority of the patients I see in the healthcare system are sick due to their own lifestyle choices. We have an entire generation of citizens who think that they are owed everything: police protection, fire protection, healthcare, etc. Personal responsibility is way undervalued by our current culture.

Numerous hospitalizations could be avoided entirely by simply getting an annual physical exam where the physician has the opportunity to catch the signals of a possible or impending issue and take preemptive measures.

'You are what you eat' is a manta of any good cardiac rehab program. However, if adopted as a normal part of one's life, it could have been what keep you out of cardiac care in the first place.

I don't think I need to point out the shift to a sedentary lifestyle that the vast majority of people have adopted.

Practicing wellness is hard work. Most people would much prefer to ignore good lifestyle choices and then push the responsibility for their well being off onto someone else.

Jim in Tucson







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