Maybe it varies with where you are. Did one here earlier in the year, took about six weeks iirc.
Bill Cardell TurboDog's Dad Www.flyinmiata.com 1-800-fly-mx5s 970-464-5600 On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:45 PM, "Helsel, Walt" <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, that’s why we aren’t too keen on it. It’s a shame.. seen two that > were both good, 40x60x14 insulated and steel interior walls pole barn for > one on 10 acres, 30x60x10 + 12x20x8 hip roof on the other on 3 acres. The > houses were good fits too, nice layouts and had some character. > > > > Doing a house-a-thon Saturday, going to hit 7 places hopefully… couple with > 30x40 sheds. J I have hopes for some of them, we shall see! > > > > Wallyman > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Bennett > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:10 PM > Cc: MiataPower > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Wally's future Garage-Mahal > > > > Just an FYI, national average closing time on a short sale is over 17 weeks. > That's 17 weeks after you write the contract. So you'd better be getting a > heck of a deal to want to get involved with one of those. > > > > Also the odds of closing are 50% of the odds of closing with a traditional > sale. That simply means the lender usually has conditions or terms the buyer > doesn't discover till later in the process and they decide to back out or the > wait time is too much for people. > > > > > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Mark Cookson wrote: > > > > > I used copper for my hard lines because I had a friend in the plumbing > business (trade for letting him use the garage to do stuff). Used the thick > wall stuff, good to like 600PSI. Way more than was needed, but damn it > looked cool. Put a drip line with dump valve below each air fitting. The > moisture never made it past the compressor, but just in case. That was in > CA. I can imagine moisture getting farther along the lines in MI. > > > > Doing it again I would have used 45 degree fittings for the air connections > to attach to so that they point down. Having them point straight out was OK, > but took up more space and worried me about breaking one off while moving > stuff around. > > > > Mark > > > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Helsel, Walt wrote: > > > > > Lights – agree on cold start ballasts, the cheapos from HD/Lowes die after a > winter or two. I work with a few electricians who can get me decent pricing > on some nice ones. I struggled with the best way to do them last time, and > went with 2 x 4’ along the sides, one over the hood area and then separate > over the workbench. > > > > Air plumbing, agreed. I have a hose reel in the center of the 24x24 now, > plus a loose hose to drag around as needed. What piping would you use, PVC, > black pipe or copper? I’ve heard pros and cons for each…. > > > > Looked at a nice 30d x 60’w x 10’+ hip roof barn last night (oh, there was a > house there too).. short sale, so not sure it fits the bill. 4 stalls, > concrete.. a nice plain slate to start with but the short sale means no > immediate occupancy so shying away from it unfortunately. It had ‘cool’ > factor, and size was nice.. I liked the 4 wide by 30’ setup, too. It’s still > a possibility but not very likely. > > > > The garage is a workshop for motor-driven items, buddies do come over on > occasion (20% of the time maybe?). I want it to look nice but it’s not a > museum. Painted walls and floor (light reflectivity and clean up > considerations).. I should take some pics of my current 2 stall before I pack > it up as a reference. > > > > Plywood walls, good idea. Having struggled with mounting things that would > be handy… or at least along the workbench/storage walls. I did drywall in my > current but no paint and it has yellowed and was a pain to mount things too > and hit studs. > > > > Power – amen! In a 24x24, I had 5 per wall (3 high, 2 low… something a buddy > told me to do and I love.. high ones for grinders and the like, low for fans > and vacs). Workbench is 6’ and has 6 (switched). I also did 4 in the > ceiling, next to the hose reel. 8’ ceiling allows me to plug in trouble > lights high and route anywhere I need them, with a high bay a cord reel will > have to be used but is a nice plan. I see the benefit of having them. > > > > Casters – I put all my big stuff on them, too. Band saw, drill press, table > saw, rolling cart… makes it nice to roll it outside if I want to make a huge > mess cutting, etc. With a bigger garage that may be less required, I hope. > > > > Internet and phone, both necessities.. the PC is mounted on the wall in a TV > mount so you can swivel it as needed to read specs, parts shop, whatever.. > love that. > > > > Dampened Air Comp box, yeah, I have an older Ing-Rand 5hp that is loud as > nuts when it runs. I was concerned with heat and ventilation tho so I need > to do some research before I do that. A buddy has a 40x72, and he put the > Air comp on the storage side and piped it into the work bay.. you can’t even > hear it run. > > > > Good ideas, guys.. and the garage forum, nice! Some great inspirational > photos over there… > > > > Keep it coming! > > Wallyman > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Cardell > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:31 PM > To: Wiseman, Curtis J > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Wally's future Garage-Mahal > > > > Light is critical. spend a few extra bucks and get ballasts that work in the > cold, unless you will be heated all the time. Otherwise you'll be buying new > lights every year. > > Bill Cardell > > TurboDog's Dad > > Www.flyinmiata.com > > 1-800-fly-mx5s > > 970-464-5600 > > > > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:55 PM, "Wiseman, Curtis J" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Mark has some great ideas, especially for Northern climes (porous floor, > plywood). > > > > It’s sort of like when somebody asks which FI system is best. The choir > chimes in to ask “how do you plan to use it?” Is your garage a work space, a > man-cave, a mother-in-law suite? Do you have buddies over or work by > yourself? Do you care what it looks like or just how it functions? > > > > Generic suggestion though: LOTS of light. You can always turn some off if > you want, but lots and lots of fluorescent fixtures make it easier on aging > eyes to see that @#*%$# fitting. > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Cookson > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:36 PM > To: Ken Bogart > Cc: Miatapower ([email protected]) > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Wally's future Garage-Mahal > > > > Two things that I did that I really liked in my first garage: > > > > Covered the walls in 3/8 plywood instead of drywall (mount anything anywhere > without worry) > > Ran hard lines with air fittings about every 15' (about 8 connections) and > had two retractable reels on the ceiling for instant use; one air, one > electric. > > > > I also have a wash basin (but only cold water, might consider a small hot > water heater) and more power outlets than you can shake a stick at, including > one in the middle of the floor for the table saw. > > > > My second garage has Internet and TV, and the previous owner had flexible air > lines that he took when he sold it. > > > > Making a good sound dampening box for the air compressor would be high on my > list too. > > > > I currently want to do something like those plastic floor tiles that raise > you up a quarter of an inch to let snow and water drain below the working > surface. > > > > A lift or pit would be ideal, but my roof is too low and tearing up my floor > isn't really in the cards. > > > > Enjoy! > > Mark > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Ken Bogart <[email protected]> wrote: > > When I build mine.. I want the following: > > > > - 2-post lift bay > > - a walled and drained wash bay > > - a work bay (machine tools, work bench) > > - a room for hanging out with couch, tv, bar, bathroom > > - open indoor area to park at least 6 cars > > - a storage/parts area (in a loft?) > > > > I figure this would have to be at least 2500sf or larger... > > > > > > Ken Bogart > ----------------------------------------------------- > 96 Montego Blue FFS Coldside (His) > 97 Black & Tan (Hers) > 90 Crystal White (sons) > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.miatacare.com > http://www.cincimiata.com > http://www.bcchallenger.org > MiataMail.com list owner > > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Helsel, Walt <[email protected]> wrote: > > So, moving to a new home.. going to have either an existing or built pole > building for the car-addiction. Looking for those of you with Garage-Mahals > to chime in. Right now I am working out of a 2 stall garage 24x24x8. > Workbench in the front on a 5’ deep raised stoop, wood heated, partially > insulated. There is not enough width for working on cars with crap along > walls (crap being a parts washer, bench grinder, shelving, etc) and it’s > fairly crowded with all the big stuff (woodstove, engine hoist, engine stand, > blast cabinet, drill press, band saw, table saw, 3 welders, etc) that is all > roaming the space. So, looking for suggestions and advice from those of you > that have dedicated hobby space… > > > > Things you would do again > > Things you regret doing > > Layout suggestions > > Storage ideas > > Workbench ideas (location, layout, etc) > > > > Anything else you think might be useful. I would love to go to a 2 post lift > down the road so I want at least one high bay for that, but for now I’m > thinking something like this: > > > > 28’w x 40 (or 48’)’l x 14’h > > 2 stalls wide, with workshop in the front (away from the doors) > > 2 overhead doors on short end, 1 mandoor, some windows of some variety for > light. > > Concrete floor and approach > > 220v electric > > Water if I am lucky > > Insulated and heated (Michigan winters) > > Will be wired for music, internet and phone as well. > > > > So, toss your ideas out.. I’m game to start figuring out how to set up the > future work space! > > Wallyman > > > > > > > > This e-mail and any attachments contain URS Corporation confidential > information that may be proprietary or privileged. 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