On Thu, February 7, 2008 14:33, Michael Smethurst wrote: >>> At the time Scott Reynen suggested: >>> <snip> >>> If it's just a generic contact that you know nothing about, I'd say >>> just use fn, as adding org is potentially incorrect information. But >>> if you know it's a music act, I think it makes sense to consider even >>> an individual performer's name to be an organization name in that >>> context. I'd say there's >>> a difference, for example, between Norah Jones the person, who would >>> be <span class="fn">Norah Jones</span>, and Norah Jones the musical >>> act, which would be <span class="fn org">Norah Jones</span>. </snip> >> >> That strikes me as no more sensible now than it did then. If I cite >> her, as "Norah Jones said", am I referring to her as a person, or an >> organisation? >> >> Would her hCard's date of both refer to the day she left her mother's >> womb, or the day the supposed "organisation" was founded? >> >> Does Mozart become an organisation if I refer to his symphonies, but >> not if I refer to his marriage? >> >> Do Winston Churchill or Ghandi suddenly become organisations if we >> refer to a recording of one of their speeches, but not one of their >> books? > > I didn't say I supported this view. I just brought it back up cos it > seemed relevant
Noted; my response was not addressed to or directed at you personally. >>> ...with artists like Eminem, Madonna, Prince. >>> How is fn optimisation supposed to work here? >> Exactly as it does at present. Those are both formatted names and >> nicknames (and remain nicknames, if you also include the fn of "Marshall >> Bruce Mathers III", "Madonna Louise Ciccone Ritchie " or "Prince >> Rogers >> Nelson"). > Not sure I follow. The hcard wiki page says nickname optimisation > happens when " "FN" and "ORG" are not the same, and the value of the "FN" > property is exactly one word. What would: <span class="fn">Madonna Louise > Ciccone Ritchie</span> > Result in? No nickname; unlike the more comprehensive: <span class="fn"><span class="nickname">Madonna</span> Louise Ciccone Ritchie</span> > Also what about artists like Plastic Bertram? I assume that's not a given > + > family name combination It would be,; however I suggest that marked up such as: <span class="fn nickname">Plastic Bertram</span> should be exempted from that optimisation rule - good call. I'll wiki it. -- Andy Mabbett ** via webmail ** _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
