On 7/2/08 11:59, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, February 7, 2008 09:55, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>
>> This takes me back several months (June 2007) to a thread about whether
>> both music:groups and music:artists_singular should be marked up as
>> organisations:
>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/microformats-discuss@microformats.org/msg07887.ht
>> ml
>
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Many, many apologies
>
> that post is:
>
>
> <http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-June/009850.ht
> ml>
>
>> At the time Scott Reynen suggested:
>> <snip>
>> If it's just a generic contact that you know nothing about, I'd say just
>> use fn, as adding org is potentially incorrect information. But if you
>> know it's a music act, I think it makes sense to consider even an
>> individual performer's name to be an organization name in that context.
>> I'd say there's
>> a difference, for example, between Norah Jones the person, who would be
>> <span class="fn">Norah Jones</span>, and Norah Jones the musical act,
>> which would be <span class="fn org">Norah Jones</span>. </snip>
>
> That strikes me as no more sensible now than it did then. If I cite her,
> as "Norah Jones said", am I referring to her as a person, or an
> organisation?
>
> Would her hCard's date of both refer to the day she left her mother's
> womb, or the day the supposed "organisation" was founded?
>
> Does Mozart become an organisation if I refer to his symphonies, but not
> if I refer to his marriage?
>
> Do Winston Churchill or Ghandi suddenly become organisations if we refer
> to a recording of one of their speeches, but not one of their books?
I didn't say I supported this view. I just brought it back up cos it seemed
relevant
>
>> ...with artists like Eminem, Madonna, Prince.
>> How is fn optimisation supposed to work here?
>
> Exactly as it does at present. Those are both formatted names and
> nicknames (and remain nicknames, if you also include the fn of "Marshall
> Bruce Mathers III", "Madonna Louise Ciccone Ritchie " or "Prince Rogers
> Nelson").
Not sure I follow. The hcard wiki page says nickname optimisation happens
when " "FN" and "ORG" are not the same, and the value of the "FN" property
is exactly one word. What would:
<span class="fn">Madonna Louise Ciccone Ritchie</span>
Result in?
Also what about artists like Plastic Bertram? I assume that's not a given +
family name combination
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