AA has ETOPS already and uses it to fly 321 NEOs to Hawaii. The training flights to Europe are indeed empty and used for training instructors and check airmen for North Atlantic ops. Since we don't have XLRs yet AA is using the NEOs it already has.
Eric
On 09/25/2025 10:39 PM EDT Mike Borfitz via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:It could be ETOPS proving or validation unless they already have it. Does anybody know if AA has that approval?Mike Borfitz
--------------------------------------------------------------------------On Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 10:02 PM ERIC Smith via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------I ran across this somewhere else but dismissed it as just another one of those things I don't understand about the decisions my employer makes. It may have something to do with ETOPS qualification rather than training. I'll see if I can find something more about it.EricOn 09/25/2025 4:54 PM EDT Jack Keady via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------keady - article in Smart News or Simple Flying said American was flying empty flights between Philly and Madrid in order to train/qualify pilots for the new XLR narrow body.Can't all this be done in simulators/classrooms/check rides on existing over water flights?
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