Tom, I had my only genuine case of food poisoning throughout my entire career 
in Toulouse (as did my skipper) but luckily we were only there for the A330 
sim. The training captain with us was fine. Same restaurants, food etc. 
Obviously one of those freak events because I agree thatToulouse was (is) a 
great place to go to work, eat and drink. Didn't put me off subsequent trips 
there.Simon
-------- Original message --------From: Tom Ronell via Mifnet 
<[email protected]> Date: 27/09/2025  06:15  (GMT+00:00) To: The Mifnet 
<[email protected]> Cc: Tom Ronell <[email protected]> Subject: [Mifnet 
🛰 74346]  Re: AA empty flights 
  
   Bonjour y'all!
   
   AA pilots are special. Their initial cadre of A300-600R pilots complained 
that they could not find any "decent" food in Toulouse and lived off McDonalds. 
   
   By contrast, although from just down the road in Houston, Continental's 
A300B4-200 pilots thrived in Toulouse.
   
   TR
   
   
  
  
   
    
    From: Karl L. Swartz via Mifnet <[email protected]>To: Mifnet 
<[email protected]>CC: Karl L. Swartz <[email protected]>Date: 
2025-09-26T23:34:33ZSubject: [Mifnet 🛰 74343] Re: AA empty flights
   
   
    Ok, Eric, but "training flights”  still doesn’t explain why this 
requirement seems to be unique to AA. 
    
     
    
    
     This summer UA served three Atlantic destinations from EWR with the 737 
MAX and I’ve been told they did no such training flights for these Atlantic 
destinations:
    
    
     
    
    
     
      GOH (Nuuk, Greenland)
      PDL (Ponta Delgada, Azores)
      FNC (Funchal / Madeira)
     
    
    
     
      
     
     
      So far as I’ve been able to determine, JetBlue didn’t do this either when 
they began flying the A321neo to Europe.
     
     
      
     
     
      Advisory Circular (AC) 120-42B, sent by Mike, is interesting but it’s 
from 2008 so certainly applied to both the UA and B6 examples. Mike mentioned 
some FAA discretion—is AA under some sort of extrAA FAA double secret scrutiny?
     
     
      
       
      
      
        -- Karl 
       
       
        
        
         
          On Sep 26, 2025, at 2:52 AM, ERIC Smith via Mifnet 
<[email protected]> wrote:
         
         
         
          
          
           
            AA has ETOPS already and uses it to fly 321 NEOs to Hawaii. The 
training flights to Europe are indeed empty and used for training instructors 
and check airmen for North Atlantic ops. Since we don't have XLRs yet AA is 
using the NEOs it already has. 
           
           
             
           
           
            Eric
           
          
         
        
       
       
      
     
    
   
  
 
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