Sorry, I didnt intend it to be rude, only helpful. I'm amazed at how many
times "we in this industry" forget to utilize the web for the information
it offers :)

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Daniel Biland <[email protected]> wrote:

>   That was allmost rude ;) [image: 😊]
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> Am 21. Dezember 2014 20:02:46 schrieb RickG <[email protected]>:
>
>> http://bit.ly/1ClPQ1f
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A /13 provides 524,286 usable IPs (before further subnetting).
>>>
>>> I think people in this thread need to find a "Routing for dummies" (no
>>> name calling intended) book or video. This is all networking 101 stuff that
>>> people either have completely wrong or are clueless about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"tim2" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"Mikrotik Users" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 6:36:06 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>>
>>> You have a /13 or a /28 which provides 14 usable ip, s.  1 is for
>>> gateway and the other is your primary router.  To control your traffic your
>>> customer gateway is the IP on your router.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Scott Reed
>>> Date:12/20/2014 3:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Mikrotik Users
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>>
>>> The one they gave you is critical.  The fact that you did not use it is
>>> probably an indication of why are are needing help with this. The list
>>> is not the place to give a full IP routing tutorial, but you need to use
>>> the .240, which also a /28 and has 16 address, 14 of which can be used
>>> by devices.  The remainder of the 256 block space can be divided and
>>> used however you want.
>>> So, assuming that your are using the first 16 addresses, you could put 8
>>> address somewhere on your network by putting a.b.c.17/29 on a router
>>> port.  That becomes the gateway address for devices that connect to that
>>> port.  In OSPF you will tell it to redistribute connected routes and you
>>> will put a.b.c.16/29 in the Network section.
>>>
>>> On 12/20/2014 3:03 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Scott
>>> >
>>> > If you want the actual subnet the upstream provider gave me was
>>> > 255.255.255.240 but I put in 255.255.255.0
>>> >
>>> > Which I have block of /13 which only 12 useable ips since the 13^th
>>> > one is upstream provider gateway IP.
>>> >
>>> > Tim
>>> >
>>> > *From:*[email protected]
>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed
>>> > *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:56 PM
>>> > *To:* Mikrotik Users
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>> >
>>> > Routing works by one device knowing the next device to send a packet
>>> > to.  So the upstream knows that all of you addresses get sent to the
>>> > one on your gateway.  The provider's devices don't care how the data
>>> > gets to the destination, just that it goes to your router.  Your OSPF
>>> > will tell your headend router how to get the data to the end point.
>>> > So, to fully answer your question, you need to answer the one I have
>>> > asked you several times. What is the subnet mask our your headend
>>> > router connecting to the upstream?  Give us that and we can quit
>>> > surmising what you might do and give you a how to do it.
>>> >
>>> > Also, from one of your comments, you can tell OSPF whether or not to
>>> > propagate your static routers.
>>> >
>>> > On 12/20/2014 2:09 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     @ Scott
>>> >     Addresses come in pPowers of 2, so you probably have 16 addresses
>>> >     in the block. So, need to know what subnet mask you use to
>>> >     connect.  If you are using a /29 or /30, the rest can be located
>>> >     anywhere on the network. Let OSPF do the work.  If you are using
>>> >     the /28 to connect, you will either need to get your provider to
>>> >     change it or get the rest of the addresses so you can subnet them.
>>> >
>>> >     How many addresses do you want at the "remote" site?
>>> >
>>> >     Let's say you have a block of 16, a /28. You can have a block of
>>> >     8, a /29, at the headend and connected to the provider.  Then you
>>> >     can have 8 more somewhere else on the network.  As long as you put
>>> >     the address in OSPF correctly, the 8 addresses from the second
>>> >     half can be anywhere on your network and OSPF will get them routed
>>> >
>>> >     I don’t know if I can even spit up the block like how your saying
>>> >     because I only have 1 gateway IP address from the upstream
>>> >     provider unless there is something I don’t know about because one
>>> >     mikrotik router (core) router is handling the ip’s then from there
>>> >     its ospf over wireless ptp link to an other mikrotik router with
>>> >     totally different internal IP address from router a haves.
>>> >
>>> >     @ Christian
>>> >
>>> >     So if you have a /28 and it was routed to router a, you can route
>>> >     the whole thing or just subnets to router b, and use them by just
>>> >     setting a gateway on router b. Or a gateway on router a.  Or if it
>>> >     is ospf you could just assign a single ip to a loopback and do a
>>> >     1:1 nat to a private. There is a lot of ways to do this, I'm just
>>> >     not clear on your setup.
>>> >
>>> >     This is how I got the network currently setup:
>>> >     modem ----: routerboard a (w/static wan IP’s w/ospf) then the link
>>> >     is on ether is going for my ptp to other routerboard b (running
>>> >     ospf also) on ether1 then I want ether 2-4 run to sectors etc.
>>> >
>>> >     So I need to figure out how to route the static wan ip’s over ospf
>>> >     from routerboard a to b etc..
>>> >
>>> >     Tim
>>> >
>>> >     *From:*[email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >     [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Christian
>>> >     Palecek
>>> >     *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 1:07 PM
>>> >     *To:* Mikrotik Users
>>> >     *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>> >
>>> >     So if you have a /28 and it was routed to router a, you can route
>>> >     the whole thing or just subnets to router b, and use them by just
>>> >     setting a gateway on router b. Or a gateway on router a.  Or if it
>>> >     is ospf you could just assign a single ip to a loopback and do a
>>> >     1:1 nat to a private. There is a lot of ways to do this, I'm just
>>> >     not clear on your setup.
>>> >
>>> >     Christian Palecek
>>> >
>>> >     Network Administrator
>>> >
>>> >     Cybernet Inc.
>>> >
>>> >     Hamilton, MT
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     -------- Original message --------
>>> >     From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >     Date:12/20/2014 10:48 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>> >     To: Mikrotik Users <[email protected]>
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >     Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>> >
>>> >     Scott I got block of 13 and I can go all the way of block of 254
>>> if I
>>> >     wanted to.
>>> >
>>> >     Tim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     On 2014-12-20 12:21, Scott Reed wrote:
>>> >     > How many addresses do they give you?
>>> >     > What is the subnet mask you use on your connection to the
>>> upstream?
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On 12/20/2014 12:07 PM, [email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >     >> Well the upstream provider have the static ip's scripted inside
>>> the
>>> >     >> modem. So I don't think they are actually routing the ip's
>>> >     directly to
>>> >     >> me.
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >> So it looks like I'm going have go bat route setup if that is
>>> >     correct.
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >> Tim
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >> On 2014-12-20 10:59, Christian Palecek wrote:
>>> >     >>> I think you are going to have to use dst-nat as a 1:1 nat,
>>> unless
>>> >     >>> they
>>> >     >>> actually are routing you ip's, then you would just route them
>>> >     like
>>> >     >>> you
>>> >     >>> would any subnet.
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> Christian Palecek
>>> >     >>> Network Administrator
>>> >     >>> Cybernet Inc.
>>> >     >>> Hamilton, MT
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> -------- Original message --------
>>> >     >>> From: T Maylone <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> >     >>> Date:12/20/2014 7:33 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>> >     >>> To: Mikrotik Users <[email protected]
>>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> >     >>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> example routing through two routers
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> assume your public ip is 1.1.1.1
>>> >     >>> assume your provider routes 1.1.1.1 to your router A ether
>>> port 1
>>> >     >>> assume there is a relationship between router a ether 2
>>> >     10.254.0.1/29
>>> >     >>> [2] and router B ether 1 10.254.0.2
>>> >     >>> assume there is a relationship between router b ether 2
>>> >     10.253.0.1/29
>>> >     >>> [3] and router c ether 1 10.253.0.2
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> In router A
>>> >     >>> IP route 1.1.1.1 10.254.0.2
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> In router B
>>> >     >>> IP router 1.1.1.1 10.253.0.2
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Tim Reichhart
>>> >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> >     >>> wrote:
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>> Guys
>>> >     >>>>
>>> >     >>>> I am just wondering if I have multiple wan IP's on ether1 is
>>> >     an way
>>> >     >>>> to place it onto other ethernet interfaces? Also I am running
>>> >     ospf
>>> >     >>>> on my routers so lets say router A is the main core with wan
>>> IP’s
>>> >     >>>> and router B needs an wan IP from router A for an internal IP
>>> how
>>> >     >>>> would I route that?
>>> >     >>>>
>>> >     >>>> Tim
>>> >     >>>>
>>> >     >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >     >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users [1]
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>> Links:
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>>> >     >>> [1] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users
>>> >     >>> [2] http://10.254.0.1/29
>>> >     >>> [3] http://10.253.0.1/29
>>> >     >>>
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