Sounds like he wants to be spoon fed?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Scott Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well put, Joe. > One think I would add, don't withhold information. If you want list > members to help, don't make us guess what you have, tell us as much of the > configuration as you know. You will get quicker, more concise answers that > way. > > On 12/22/2014 9:45 AM, Joe Miller wrote: > > Tim, > > > > It is not a matter of being rude. If you are working in this space > (networking), it is implied that you already know how to subnet IP > addresses. I have been watching this thread go on for a while now and I > have to say that if you are this thin skinned, maybe you may want to find > something else to do for a living. > > > > You will find some users here harsh at times, and this is because you > haven’t done your own research first. There is plenty of information on the > web to teach you about IP’s and subnet’s. here is one I use a lot, > http://www.aelius.com/njh/subnet_sheet.html it is a subnet cheat sheet. > When I first got into this business, I bought a book called “Subnetting for > Dummies” and I bought Dennis’ book. > > > > You will get folks here popping off when you tell them you have a /13 > subnet when actually it is a /27. This in itself speaks volumes as to how > much you understand about subnets. This is the reason for the reference > material they gave you. This was not being rude, period. > > > > The whole point on this is do your own research and then ask questions, > not ask questions and then do the research. No one here is going to do the > work for you. We will help you along the way but we will not carry the > water for you. We all have companies to run and employees to deal with. > > > > I personally will be willing to help you, but you have better have done > your research first. This is how 99% of us are. > > > > So, put your big boy pants on and get to work. > > > > Joe Miller > > www.dslbyair.com > > www.facebook.com/dslbyair > > 228-831-8881 > > > > “I can explain it to you, I cannot understand it for you.” > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Tim Reichhart > *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 5:15 AM > *To:* 'Mikrotik Users' > *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > > > Wow…. You all don’t have to be rude….. > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Bryce Duchcherer > *Sent:* Sunday, December 21, 2014 11:50 PM > *To:* Mikrotik Users > *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > > > “Networking All-In-One For Dummies” > > > http://www.amazon.ca/Networking-All---One-Dummies-Doug/dp/1118380983/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419223262&sr=8-1&keywords=networking+for+dummies > > > > Also, for people new to MikroTik Dennis Burgess’ book Learn RouterOS has > lots of good information in it. > > > http://www.amazon.ca/Learn-RouterOS-Edition-Dennis-Burgess-ebook/dp/B005OY0JJY > > He also has video’s on his website that you can download from training > sessions. > > > > Greg Sowell has lots of videos on YouTube that cover many thinks in > RouterOS – they are definitely worth checking out. > > > > I highly recommend if you can, spend the money and go to training courses, > they are worth every penny. > > > > Bryce Duchcherer > > NETAGO > > [email protected] > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* December 21, 2014 7:02 PM > *To:* Mikrotik Users > *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > > > http://bit.ly/1ClPQ1f > > > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > A /13 provides 524,286 usable IPs (before further subnetting). > > I think people in this thread need to find a "Routing for dummies" (no > name calling intended) book or video. This is all networking 101 stuff that > people either have completely wrong or are clueless about. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"tim2" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Mikrotik Users" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 6:36:06 AM > > > *Subject: *Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > You have a /13 or a /28 which provides 14 usable ip, s. 1 is for gateway > and the other is your primary router. To control your traffic your > customer gateway is the IP on your router. > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Scott Reed > > Date:12/20/2014 3:30 PM (GMT-05:00) > > To: Mikrotik Users > > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > > > The one they gave you is critical. The fact that you did not use it is > probably an indication of why are are needing help with this. The list > is not the place to give a full IP routing tutorial, but you need to use > the .240, which also a /28 and has 16 address, 14 of which can be used > by devices. The remainder of the 256 block space can be divided and > used however you want. > So, assuming that your are using the first 16 addresses, you could put 8 > address somewhere on your network by putting a.b.c.17/29 on a router > port. That becomes the gateway address for devices that connect to that > port. In OSPF you will tell it to redistribute connected routes and you > will put a.b.c.16/29 in the Network section. > > On 12/20/2014 3:03 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: > > > > Scott > > > > If you want the actual subnet the upstream provider gave me was > > 255.255.255.240 but I put in 255.255.255.0 > > > > Which I have block of /13 which only 12 useable ips since the 13^th > > one is upstream provider gateway IP. > > > > Tim > > > > *From:*[email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:56 PM > > *To:* Mikrotik Users > > *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > > > Routing works by one device knowing the next device to send a packet > > to. So the upstream knows that all of you addresses get sent to the > > one on your gateway. The provider's devices don't care how the data > > gets to the destination, just that it goes to your router. Your OSPF > > will tell your headend router how to get the data to the end point. > > So, to fully answer your question, you need to answer the one I have > > asked you several times. What is the subnet mask our your headend > > router connecting to the upstream? Give us that and we can quit > > surmising what you might do and give you a how to do it. > > > > Also, from one of your comments, you can tell OSPF whether or not to > > propagate your static routers. > > > > On 12/20/2014 2:09 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: > > > > @ Scott > > Addresses come in pPowers of 2, so you probably have 16 addresses > > in the block. So, need to know what subnet mask you use to > > connect. If you are using a /29 or /30, the rest can be located > > anywhere on the network. Let OSPF do the work. If you are using > > the /28 to connect, you will either need to get your provider to > > change it or get the rest of the addresses so you can subnet them. > > > > How many addresses do you want at the "remote" site? > > > > Let's say you have a block of 16, a /28. You can have a block of > > 8, a /29, at the headend and connected to the provider. Then you > > can have 8 more somewhere else on the network. As long as you put > > the address in OSPF correctly, the 8 addresses from the second > > half can be anywhere on your network and OSPF will get them routed > > > > I don’t know if I can even spit up the block like how your saying > > because I only have 1 gateway IP address from the upstream > > provider unless there is something I don’t know about because one > > mikrotik router (core) router is handling the ip’s then from there > > its ospf over wireless ptp link to an other mikrotik router with > > totally different internal IP address from router a haves. > > > > @ Christian > > > > So if you have a /28 and it was routed to router a, you can route > > the whole thing or just subnets to router b, and use them by just > > setting a gateway on router b. Or a gateway on router a. Or if it > > is ospf you could just assign a single ip to a loopback and do a > > 1:1 nat to a private. There is a lot of ways to do this, I'm just > > not clear on your setup. > > > > This is how I got the network currently setup: > > modem ----: routerboard a (w/static wan IP’s w/ospf) then the link > > is on ether is going for my ptp to other routerboard b (running > > ospf also) on ether1 then I want ether 2-4 run to sectors etc. > > > > So I need to figure out how to route the static wan ip’s over ospf > > from routerboard a to b etc.. > > > > Tim > > > > *From:*[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Christian > > Palecek > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 1:07 PM > > *To:* Mikrotik Users > > *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > > > So if you have a /28 and it was routed to router a, you can route > > the whole thing or just subnets to router b, and use them by just > > setting a gateway on router b. Or a gateway on router a. Or if it > > is ospf you could just assign a single ip to a loopback and do a > > 1:1 nat to a private. There is a lot of ways to do this, I'm just > > not clear on your setup. > > > > Christian Palecek > > > > Network Administrator > > > > Cybernet Inc. > > > > Hamilton, MT > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Date:12/20/2014 10:48 AM (GMT-07:00) > > To: Mikrotik Users <[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > > > Scott I got block of 13 and I can go all the way of block of 254 if I > > wanted to. > > > > Tim > > > > > > On 2014-12-20 12:21, Scott Reed wrote: > > > How many addresses do they give you? > > > What is the subnet mask you use on your connection to the upstream? > > > > > > On 12/20/2014 12:07 PM, [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Well the upstream provider have the static ip's scripted inside > the > > >> modem. So I don't think they are actually routing the ip's > > directly to > > >> me. > > >> > > >> So it looks like I'm going have go bat route setup if that is > > correct. > > >> > > >> Tim > > >> > > >> On 2014-12-20 10:59, Christian Palecek wrote: > > >>> I think you are going to have to use dst-nat as a 1:1 nat, unless > > >>> they > > >>> actually are routing you ip's, then you would just route them > > like > > >>> you > > >>> would any subnet. > > >>> > > >>> Christian Palecek > > >>> Network Administrator > > >>> Cybernet Inc. > > >>> Hamilton, MT > > >>> > > >>> -------- Original message -------- > > >>> From: T Maylone <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >>> Date:12/20/2014 7:33 AM (GMT-07:00) > > >>> To: Mikrotik Users <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask > > >>> > > >>> example routing through two routers > > >>> > > >>> assume your public ip is 1.1.1.1 > > >>> assume your provider routes 1.1.1.1 to your router A ether port 1 > > >>> assume there is a relationship between router a ether 2 > > 10.254.0.1/29 > > >>> [2] and router B ether 1 10.254.0.2 > > >>> assume there is a relationship between router b ether 2 > > 10.253.0.1/29 > > >>> [3] and router c ether 1 10.253.0.2 > > >>> > > >>> In router A > > >>> IP route 1.1.1.1 10.254.0.2 > > >>> > > >>> In router B > > >>> IP router 1.1.1.1 10.253.0.2 > > >>> > > >>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Tim Reichhart > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Guys > > >>>> > > >>>> I am just wondering if I have multiple wan IP's on ether1 is > > an way > > >>>> to place it onto other ethernet interfaces? Also I am running > > ospf > > >>>> on my routers so lets say router A is the main core with wan > IP’s > > >>>> and router B needs an wan IP from router A for an internal IP > how > > >>>> would I route that? > > >>>> > > >>>> Tim > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Mikrotik-users mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users [1] > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Links: > > >>> ------ > > >>> [1] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > >>> [2] http://10.254.0.1/29 > > >>> [3] http://10.253.0.1/29 > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Mikrotik-users mailing list > > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mikrotik-users mailing list > > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- > > >> No virus found in this message. > > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > >> Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4253/8773 - Release Date: > > >> 12/20/14 > > > > > > -- > > > Scott Reed > > > Owner > > > NewWays Networking, LLC > > > Wireless Networking > > > Network Design, Installation and Administration > > > Mikrotik Advanced Certified > > > www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net> > > > (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mikrotik-users mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > _______________________________________________ > > Mikrotik-users mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mikrotik-users mailing list > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4253/8773 - Release Date: > > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik-users mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > > > > > -- > > -RickG KyWiFi > > > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik-users mailing > [email protected]http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8785 - Release Date: 12/22/14 > > > -- > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays Networking, LLC > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > Mikrotik Advanced Certifiedwww.nwwnet.net(765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 > Toll-free (855) 231-6239 > > > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > >
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